EPA regulations
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From: Aussie lost in Switzerland
Its not always as bad as it sounds, some LEOs are reasonable and give you a break, but it does happen more often than i've seen anywhere else.
we do have 2 yearly mandatory emisons checks, but people being people, your bike could have any setup between the mandatory checks, hence the random checks.
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Are you familiar with the concept of overfishing?
http://see-the-sea.org/topics/commerce/overfishing.htm
Do you know that overfishing has decimated parts of the fishing industry? So the fishing industry does not have a history of self-regulation.
http://see-the-sea.org/topics/commerce/overfishing.htm
Do you know that overfishing has decimated parts of the fishing industry? So the fishing industry does not have a history of self-regulation.
So I keep seeing posts where people are talking about how newer EPA regulations are causing HD bikes to run leaner, which is resulting to bad things for their bikes, such as making them run hotter, and ultimately may force HD to move to liquid cooled engines.
Are these regs such a bad thing for the bike performance? If so, why?
Or is someone better-off owning an older bike to get around the EPA regs?
Are these regs such a bad thing for the bike performance? If so, why?
Or is someone better-off owning an older bike to get around the EPA regs?
Tourer
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From: Colorado
For those of you who stated that the EPA has hurt businesses or put them out of business that is not its mission. Its mission is to protect human health and the environment. The bad acts of some businesses affect those businesses which are doing the right thing. Self-policing does not work, enforcement does. As far as "bad science" EPA develops proposed regulations and publishes them for industry, business and us to comment on. If you are not offering better "science" you really cannot complain. Just my two cents.
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From: Northern WV
For those of you who stated that the EPA has hurt businesses or put them out of business that is not its mission. Its mission is to protect human health and the environment. The bad acts of some businesses affect those businesses which are doing the right thing. Self-policing does not work, enforcement does.....
Maybe it's time for the EPA to re-focus their effort?
Tourer
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From: Colorado
You are absolutely correct Ridewva. EPA has nationwide an oil and gas initiative. Give EPA sometime to build some momentum. I do not have children but we cannot leave them with a large national debt and a contaminated environment.
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From: Republic of Texas
A lot of industry has left this country and moved to other countries taking good jobs with it over regulations that pushed profits to an unacceptable level for companies. I have seen this in my industry. Usable resources are not being used and jobs are not being created in this country over these same overzealous application of unattainable EPA standards. I watched Texas approach rolling blackouts during a unprecedented heat wave that could have cost lives because of mandates making older power plants unacceptable to bring on line. There also is not enough profit to justify building bigger newer plants to handle just such an increase in demand only once or twice every decade. You tree huggers have lost sight of the fact that these mandates hurt people. They cost money and sometimes the cost is disproportional to the benefit. Nobody wants dirty air or dirty water but face it ---even bears **** in the woods.
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From: Colorado
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A lot of industry has left this country and moved to other countries taking good jobs with it over regulations that pushed profits to an unacceptable level for companies. I have seen this in my industry. Usable resources are not being used and jobs are not being created in this country over these same overzealous application of unattainable EPA standards
Another is from a country with NO EPA or agency like it.
You decide where you want to live, and if there NO alternative way to make a living that doesn't require shitting on our environment.
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From: milwaukee by da big water
Boilermakers for Obama! My union has killed the golden goose. We are the largest group of unionized workers out of work permantly. Ha Ha I just hope someone puts and end to the fat cats in the union as well.