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Nov 21, 2006 | 08:07 PM

#21

DoCPooF

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RE: The countersteering thread...

Just a little clarification. Counter-steering works above 15 miles an hour.

With slow speeds you have to turn the old convention way.

I think alot of people claim to know about counter steering but have no clue.

Nov 21, 2006 | 08:14 PM

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easyglider

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RE: The countersteering thread...

Learned in MSC push left ,lean left,go left.....Push right,lean right.go right.

Nov 21, 2006 | 08:40 PM

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RE: The countersteering thread...

This is probably a repeat of what has already been said in this thread but I think alot of people are saying different things but meaning the same thing. Once you've obtained a little speed, you countersteer everytime you turn whether you know it or not. You have to or you wouldn't turn. You ALWAYS do it. Maybe only "sometimes" you're aware of it and make a conscious effort but either way that's the only way you turn your bike, by countersteering.

I've never been dumb enough to try it but the next time you approach a curve, turn the front tire in the direction of the curve and see how long you last. Again, never having done it I can only guess that you would high side.

Another point, you don't have to make a physical effort to lean. When you enter a corner, leaning is automatically introduced by the countersteer. You can't help but lean. Now how intentional or efficiently you want to do it might be a different matter.

Nov 21, 2006 | 09:06 PM

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RE: The countersteering thread...

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ORIGINAL: anubisss

After reading the rear brake in turn thread I thought some people should learn something about countersteering. See this I use this method pretty much all the time. It is quite handy. Simply put, if I wish to turn left I pull towards myself on the right bar. If I wish to turn right, I pull towards myself on the left bar. After a while it jsut becomes second nature IMO...

Ive just spent 1 1/2 hourS trying to steer the counter upstairs,,,,, itll only go straight,,,,
the toilet on the ohter hand,,,,,, MAN, i CAN DO CIRCLES WITH THAT BABY!

Nov 21, 2006 | 09:18 PM

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RE: The countersteering thread...

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ORIGINAL: Rhubarb

Everyone does it, just some don't realize it.

Leaning the bike does nothing. The only way to steer is to countersteer, which causes some leaning.

You know, they say that, but I beg to differ. Perhaps it's the typical rider to weight ratio, but if I take my hands (a short way) off the handles bars, 250lbs of me CAN cause a Deuce to change direction. Perhaps it's the longer rake and more trail vs the NO BS bike.

I'm not saying that you can "steer" this way, but if you lean then you are past the point of push right go right and you actually pull (slightly) right to go right.

Flame on...

Nov 21, 2006 | 09:21 PM

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anubisss

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RE: The countersteering thread...

Okay, the funny business guys are here...LOL. I use all the time,but didn't learn about it until I had been riding for about 5 years. I pull instead of pushing because the push logic still doesn't work for me, but I understand how it is all the same thing. One hand pushes the other pulls...

Nov 22, 2006 | 09:19 PM

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rdam

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RE: The countersteering thread...

Push on the left handlebar and see how hard it is to get the bike to go left (or vice-versa) when your going 70 MPH. The wheels (and engine flywheel for that matter) are just big gyroscopes. They do a great job of keeping the bike going straight, and it takes substantial force on the handlebar to change direction.