General Harley Davidson Chat Forum to discuss general Harley Davidson issues, topics, and experiences.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Open Belt Primary

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 17, 2011 | 11:02 PM
  #1  
Cosmic Razorback's Avatar
Cosmic Razorback
Thread Starter
|
Club Member
15 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Active Streak: 30 Days
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 21,725
Likes: 22,812
From: North Carolina
Riders Club Member
Default Open Belt Primary

Last Sunday I saw a Street Glide up at Stations Inn (NC Blue Ridge Parkway). There were several hundred bikes there and I never saw the owner to ask any questions.

My questions for you guys is why?

I see them all the time on pretty much every custom bike but not on stock bikes.

Are they safe? (may be why they are not on production bikes)

Any advantages or disadvantages vs closed chain?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Thanks in advance
 
Old Sep 17, 2011 | 11:45 PM
  #2  
Skid Lid's Avatar
Skid Lid
Road Master
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 995
Likes: 2
From: Canada
Default

I would also like to here someones perspective on this, for me it would get old really fast having to have a elastic around my left pant leg all the time for fear of having my pants ripped off in the primary.
 
Old Sep 17, 2011 | 11:58 PM
  #3  
Chunk's Avatar
Chunk
Road Warrior
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,589
Likes: 2
From: USA
Default

Yeah the open primary is good stuff, it, for the most part runs w/ less stress than a closed. That front belt wheel can be lighter & cause less friction on the crankshaft & reduce tension in opposing positions such as the, I say generically, the crankshaft drive wheel & transmission main shaft.
 
Old Sep 18, 2011 | 12:04 AM
  #4  
Kowan's Avatar
Kowan
Ultimate HDF Member
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 7,882
Likes: 5
From: So California
Default

They're safe as long as you keep them fed with pant legs.
It's a cool look but louder than a closed primary.

For year people asked HD for a belt primary. Then HD offered the FXB and many replaced the belt primary with a chain... can't win for losing.
 
Old Sep 18, 2011 | 12:17 AM
  #5  
parabellum_9x19's Avatar
parabellum_9x19
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,095
Likes: 11
From: Central Illinois
Default

Seems like having it exposed with a belt is purely for looks and it would have a few mechanical disadvantages...but it does look pretty badass.
 
Old Sep 18, 2011 | 12:45 AM
  #6  
Chunk's Avatar
Chunk
Road Warrior
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,589
Likes: 2
From: USA
Default

The chain is heavier & tension is more obvious throughout its revolutions in comparison to a belt drive.
Tensioning a chain, vigilantly is usually not on any, just every body's, agenda; because, personally, an open primary w/ a chain is HOT, to me.
 
Old Sep 18, 2011 | 12:46 AM
  #7  
HoggyMtnBreakdown's Avatar
HoggyMtnBreakdown
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 4,133
Likes: 125
From: Japan
Default

Purely to add wickedness - $1.5-2k worth. It does give you one less fluid hole to worry about. But that's a lot of coin to pay for added awesomeness and 1 less quart of oil every couple months.
 
Old Sep 18, 2011 | 02:00 AM
  #8  
Harleybass's Avatar
Harleybass
Road Captain
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 671
Likes: 0
From: Toledo Bend Lake Texas
Default

An open Belt Drive ,has been known to "scare" women and small children! It'll also scare the rider when he see's just what it'll do to a tennis shoe!
A friend of my races on the AHDRA in the Top Fuel class, he aint afraid of nothin, he took my little "71" bar hopper for a test ride one afternoon. It had an open belt drive. When he got back he was white as a ghost, he said "this SOB is gonna hurt somebody"! He got his tennis shoe caught in it and basicly it removed most of his tennis shoe and all of his sock. Got both our attentions!!
 
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Sep 18, 2011 | 02:46 AM
  #9  
TwiZted Biker's Avatar
TwiZted Biker
Club Member
15 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 10
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 66,110
Likes: 51,394
From: Niles Canyon Ca.
Default

Originally Posted by Kowan
They're safe as long as you keep them fed with pant legs.
It's a cool look but louder than a closed primary.

For year people asked HD for a belt primary. Then HD offered the FXB and many replaced the belt primary with a chain... can't win for losing.
Good idea but wrong place in time the materials weren't up to the job yet . Belt tech has come a LONG way in just the last 10 yrs . Primary belts need a lot closer attention to getting the installation correct like alignment & proper running tension . Done right their great . Done wrong and they'll shred fast in a primary . I've been running them 30 plus yrs including big inch motors , last chain was I had was in a drag bike around 1980 .

PS Had an old buddy in Kansas City who had a pan chop with a 3" open belt and a jockey shift , you figure out how he got the nick " 3 Finger Frank " .
 

Last edited by TwiZted Biker; Sep 18, 2011 at 02:49 AM.
Old Sep 18, 2011 | 05:01 AM
  #10  
Jrsess's Avatar
Jrsess
Ultimate HDF Member
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 8,907
Likes: 69
From: Wesley Chapel Fl.
Default

I've never been to kean on them myself. But, thats just me.
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:50 AM.

story-0
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-5
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-6
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE