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From: reading pa
It has nothing to do with were it's made it's the point of things. American made hd. Buy American and so forth. Bla bla bla. Seriously I bought the jacket cause it's a nice. I'm just venting about it .Nothing seems to be made in our country anymore. Even though it's all advertised as American
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From: Wills Point Texas
The only way to affect that is not to buy foreign made but I said that in 1975 it's probably to late the made in America ship has sailed we packed it up in American jobs and shipped it out. Who needs a middle class anyway.
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Remember that add campaing the garment unions did in the 1970's? "Look for the Union Label?" Well, they eliminated most of the Union Labels.
The purpose of the union is to create an artifical labor shortage by preventing those who are willing to work for the pay an employer offers from getting jobs. By shorting the supply of labor, they drive up the price that ahs to be paid for the labor. The employer, obviously, gets the money he pays for labor from selling the product. If labor costs too much, the product costs more than people are willing to pay for it, it doesn't sell, and he goes broke.
the only alternative for the manufacturer/employer, is to find a source of labor that can't be controlled by the union, by having his product made in a 3rd world country that doesn't provide government support to unions, to allow them to create the labor shortage. The manufacturer then moves most jobs to the foreign workers and becomes an importer. The manufacturer doesn't have a choice between manufacturing here and manufacturing in China, he has a choice between going out of business and manufacturing in China.
So, when I look at the "Made in Indonesia" tag on a harley jacket, I don't complain about Harley Davidson, I complain about the unemployed former union textile worker down the street who helped screw himself and everybody else for a ew bucks on his pay check.
That's 2 days worth of Economics 101 for you, free of charge.
The purpose of the union is to create an artifical labor shortage by preventing those who are willing to work for the pay an employer offers from getting jobs. By shorting the supply of labor, they drive up the price that ahs to be paid for the labor. The employer, obviously, gets the money he pays for labor from selling the product. If labor costs too much, the product costs more than people are willing to pay for it, it doesn't sell, and he goes broke.
the only alternative for the manufacturer/employer, is to find a source of labor that can't be controlled by the union, by having his product made in a 3rd world country that doesn't provide government support to unions, to allow them to create the labor shortage. The manufacturer then moves most jobs to the foreign workers and becomes an importer. The manufacturer doesn't have a choice between manufacturing here and manufacturing in China, he has a choice between going out of business and manufacturing in China.
So, when I look at the "Made in Indonesia" tag on a harley jacket, I don't complain about Harley Davidson, I complain about the unemployed former union textile worker down the street who helped screw himself and everybody else for a ew bucks on his pay check.
That's 2 days worth of Economics 101 for you, free of charge.
Last edited by brenn; Sep 23, 2011 at 07:12 AM.
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From: WPB, FL
All American!
I drive/ride all American made vehicles -
cars - Nissan & Toyota
bike - Harley
A good chunk of the parts from ALL the vehicles are made OUTSIDE of the US of A. Anyone who thinks that this is something new must have been hiding under a rock somewhere!
cars - Nissan & Toyota
bike - Harley
A good chunk of the parts from ALL the vehicles are made OUTSIDE of the US of A. Anyone who thinks that this is something new must have been hiding under a rock somewhere!
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From: north of Winameg
Companies can't make maximum profits if their writing paychecks. Union wages just makes profits even smaller. Hard to write a check to someone who earns $10.00 an hour, working inside a building, when Charlie Chan will work under a tree for $10.00 a day.
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Found this on the web while doing a search for made in USA vs China. Don't know how much of it is true or where he got his facts & figures from.
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"Finally, and not enough people are aware of this, but Made in America does not necessarily mean Made in America. For example,
Saipan, located almost four thousand miles from Hawaii in the western Pacific Ocean has US Commonwealth status, its people are US Citizens, and garments made there of Chinese fabric by impoverished Chinese women working seven days a week for paltry wages, may be labeled Made in the USA. Buy American proponents who are concerned about US manufacturing jobs being exported overseas, and who refuse to buy Made in China products at their H-D dealer, or at Wal-Mart, might want to think twice before they buy another garment from Tommy Hilfinger, The Gap, Polo Ralph Lauren, Abercrombie, Sears, Nordstrom, JC Penny or Target, because all of them sell clothing which is made in Saipan, and labeled Made in the USA."
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"Finally, and not enough people are aware of this, but Made in America does not necessarily mean Made in America. For example,
Saipan, located almost four thousand miles from Hawaii in the western Pacific Ocean has US Commonwealth status, its people are US Citizens, and garments made there of Chinese fabric by impoverished Chinese women working seven days a week for paltry wages, may be labeled Made in the USA. Buy American proponents who are concerned about US manufacturing jobs being exported overseas, and who refuse to buy Made in China products at their H-D dealer, or at Wal-Mart, might want to think twice before they buy another garment from Tommy Hilfinger, The Gap, Polo Ralph Lauren, Abercrombie, Sears, Nordstrom, JC Penny or Target, because all of them sell clothing which is made in Saipan, and labeled Made in the USA."