General Harley Davidson Chat Forum to discuss general Harley Davidson issues, topics, and experiences.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Dallas Motorcops

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 30, 2011 | 08:40 PM
  #21  
dieselguy65's Avatar
dieselguy65
Tourer
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 432
Likes: 2
From: la porte, texas
Default

i have yet to se a motorcycle cop with a fullface helmet on. they all wear the half helmets around here. visiblity reason i would expect to be the reason. I know when on the sport bike with the FF, my field of vision is crapola!
 
Old Sep 30, 2011 | 08:53 PM
  #22  
babalu's Avatar
babalu
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,202
Likes: 5
From: Hudson Valley, NY
Default

Believe it or not a lot of these maneuvers can be learned in a few weekends with a little practice. You won't be ready for motor cop training but you would be surprised how quickly slow maneuvers come with the right practice and how good you can get with just a little of the right training. Most people never practice it though, I've seen riders with 20 years experience who still can't pull of a u-turn in a two lane road, it's like the guys who strength train properly and the guys who sit in the gym doing curls all day.
 

Last edited by babalu; Sep 30, 2011 at 08:56 PM.
Old Sep 30, 2011 | 09:54 PM
  #23  
XKnight's Avatar
XKnight
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,225
Likes: 9
From: 3rd Stone From The Sun
Default

Respect! Motocops are some of the best trained riders out there. I'm surprised the "real bikers" on the forum haven't referred to the Motocops as posers yet.

 
Old Sep 30, 2011 | 11:00 PM
  #24  
honkylips's Avatar
honkylips
Road Captain
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 621
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by txfxstrider
Great riding, and gee I hate to bring this up but notice that the cop is not ATGATT. No full face helmet, no armour, bare exposed arms, etc. Perhaps our forum safety preachers should contact him and get him squared away. However, they may not be reading this thread since Helmet is not in the title.
They have to make some concessions so as to be able to perform their job functions. You ever try talking to a motorist that you have pulled over in your full face helmet? I've seen some jurisdictions use the full face flip up helmets, but most see to stick with the 3/4 helmet.
 
Old Sep 30, 2011 | 11:01 PM
  #25  
honkylips's Avatar
honkylips
Road Captain
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 621
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by babalu
Believe it or not a lot of these maneuvers can be learned in a few weekends with a little practice. You won't be ready for motor cop training but you would be surprised how quickly slow maneuvers come with the right practice and how good you can get with just a little of the right training. Most people never practice it though, I've seen riders with 20 years experience who still can't pull of a u-turn in a two lane road, it's like the guys who strength train properly and the guys who sit in the gym doing curls all day.
Those slow tight turns require slipping the clutch while riding the brake at the same time. It's a delicate balance and takes some practice to be proficient at.
 
Old Sep 30, 2011 | 11:13 PM
  #26  
Shredding rubber's Avatar
Shredding rubber
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 3,449
Likes: 8
From: Right about the middle
Default

Damn that cop could ride. Thanks for posting that. I am gonna practice. Those were some amazing tight turns
 
Old Oct 1, 2011 | 01:55 AM
  #27  
milesvdustin's Avatar
milesvdustin
Tourer
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 499
Likes: 1
From: Herrin, Illinois
Default

Originally Posted by honkylips
Those slow tight turns require slipping the clutch while riding the brake at the same time. It's a delicate balance and takes some practice to be proficient at.
It also takes good crash bars and the ability to lay the bike on em. You can see the sparks in many parts of the video. On youtube there is a video of a guy on a BMW police bike, no metal parts to put down. Puts the harley and victory guys to shame.
 
Old Oct 1, 2011 | 02:18 AM
  #28  
Paniolo's Avatar
Paniolo
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,106
Likes: 12
From: SoCal
Default

Originally Posted by tx-skydiver
I wish there was an equally intense civilian training.
The cost and commitment is the key factor. I know there is a place in the San Francisco Bay area and also one in the Pacific Northwest (names and addresses not recalled). To become that good you need time and lots of it. I'm not too sure how many civillians would be willing to pay for two weeks of class 8 hours a day. The RLAP course is 4-5 hours and it only scratches the surface. It gives you the basic skills and techniques, the rest is up to you. How often you practice is crucial.

I don't run my Motor Officer Prep Course too often, maybe once or twice a year. I am VERY selective and discriminating about the attendees.They are usually guys who have already washed out of motor school, and riders who have demonstrated superb command and control of their bike. The exercises are very frustating and at times very risky. I don't like riders to become frustrated as that can lead to loss of confidence. I also don't want anyone to get injured. All riders MUST use a Kawasaki Police Bike (mine or theirs) as the exercises come rght out of the LAPD and are configured to making that bike do slow riding full lock turns with a good board dragging lean.
 
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

Harley-Davidson Fat Boy Becomes a Dark, Decepticon-Inspired Custom

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Weirdest Harley-Davidsons Ever Sold to the Public

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Oct 1, 2011 | 06:28 AM
  #29  
CSP067's Avatar
CSP067
Tourer
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 446
Likes: 4
From: Nevada
Default

Originally Posted by milesvdustin
It also takes good crash bars and the ability to lay the bike on em. You can see the sparks in many parts of the video. On youtube there is a video of a guy on a BMW police bike, no metal parts to put down. Puts the harley and victory guys to shame.
Regarding the sparks, in most cases with Harleys it's the footboards that are scraping. The engine/bag guards don't normally touch until the bike is going down. When I can scrape the boards in full-lock slow turns, I know I'm exactly where I want to be. Getting there is the battle, and it's a perishable skill. You absolutely must practice regularly or bye-bye.

The BMW police bikes do have guards added. See Here
 
Old Oct 1, 2011 | 06:58 AM
  #30  
Josewales's Avatar
Josewales
Road Warrior
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,857
Likes: 7
Default

The bike course I took last spring had us on kiddy bikes for a day and a half. First day we weren't past 2nd gear doing maneuvers and obstacle course. It felt like a bear on a trycycle....feet always flopping out to save it from dropping. As soon as we got back on the big bikes....I was amazed how much an improvement to my slow riding.

Company that ran the course is involved with the city cops training also.
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:39 PM.

story-0
Harley-Davidson Fat Boy Becomes a Dark, Decepticon-Inspired Custom

Slideshow: Killer Custom's latest build relies on styling changes rather than performance upgrades, giving the cruiser an entirely different personality.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 18:28:05


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Weirdest Harley-Davidsons Ever Sold to the Public

Slideshow: From military-inspired singles to scooters and three-wheel utility vehicles, these Harleys took the company far outside its comfort zone.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-02 18:34:10


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-3
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-4
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-6
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-7
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-8
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-9
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE