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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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I hope your signed up with ABATE or going to sign up with them
as you are the kind of people that they are looking for!

I'll leave that at that!

I'm sorry you don't like my friend that rides every where in the
U.S. and Canada with out a helmet with out caring if theres a
helmet law or not. Most people that don't have the BA!!s to do
what he does don't like him so thats cool with me!

I'm sorry that your jealous of my wife giving me an Ultra for my
birthday, but some men pick a good woman and some don't!!
Sorry about your luck is all I can say about that!

Did I miss anything??? LOL"


You are real good at reading things into reports that aren't there and putting words into peoples mouths arent' ya ??
Didn't say I didn't like your friend , I simply asked what he accomplished ...
didn't say I was jealous of your wife , don't know her , simply said maybe she should buy you another bike
you say your sorry about MY luck ?? you haven't met my wife , although she is posted in the showdown forum , so don't be sorry for me , you wouldn't be able to handle her , I promise ya that





OK" what ever you say my friend"

Don't forget to join ABATE if you haven't already"

They really need you..... LOL"


 
Old Dec 8, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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Wow" That just reinforces what I've thought of ABATE since
they first started up.

They are complete DUMB AZZ's that have no clue what they
are talking about when it comes to motorcyce safety at all.

I wear a helmet 99% of the time in my 40+ years of riding, but
back when this fight over helmet laws first started I went to
rallies at parliament grounds when they were meeting on helmet
laws to fight against them. I went to them wearing my helmet!

WHY???

Because if you let them tell you,you have to wear a helmet they
will start telling you, you have to wear seat belts and before long
they will tell you everything you can and can not do in your life..
All of what we were fighting against is coming to be true now
because we let them get away with it..

That is the only reason to fight helmet laws, not because some
total DUMB AZZ says it is safer to not wear them. IMO anyone
who thinks it is safer to ride a motorcycle without a helmet
needs to never be allowed to breed because we have way to
many stupid people in this world already and we sure don't
need anymore then there are now!

Sorry for the rant, but stupidity just makes my blood boil!!

OK" I'm done now! (I think?)




I have to agree with you completely. I have been riding since the 1960's and have seen so many lower speed accidents where Motorcyclists hit their heads hard on the pavement that they would not be with us today if they had not had on the helmets.
Its a non-arguement in my mind.

But I do agree that if you don't want to wear one thats your decision. Don't agree with that rule when discussing seatbelts and it has more to do with kids than anything else.
 
Old Dec 8, 2006 | 05:37 PM
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Wow" That just reinforces what I've thought of ABATE since
they first started up.

They are complete DUMB AZZ's that have no clue what they
are talking about when it comes to motorcyce safety at all.

I wear a helmet 99% of the time in my 40+ years of riding, but
back when this fight over helmet laws first started I went to
rallies at parliament grounds when they were meeting on helmet
laws to fight against them. I went to them wearing my helmet!

WHY???

Because if you let them tell you,you have to wear a helmet they
will start telling you, you have to wear seat belts and before long
they will tell you everything you can and can not do in your life..
All of what we were fighting against is coming to be true now
because we let them get away with it..

That is the only reason to fight helmet laws, not because some
total DUMB AZZ says it is safer to not wear them. IMO anyone
who thinks it is safer to ride a motorcycle without a helmet
needs to never be allowed to breed because we have way to
many stupid people in this world already and we sure don't
need anymore then there are now!

Sorry for the rant, but stupidity just makes my blood boil!!

OK" I'm done now! (I think?)




I have to agree with you completely. I have been riding since the 1960's and have seen so many lower speed accidents where Motorcyclists hit their heads hard on the pavement that they would not be with us today if they had not had on the helmets.
Its a non-arguement in my mind.

But I do agree that if you don't want to wear one thats your decision. Don't agree with that rule when discussing seatbelts and it has more to do with kids than anything else.





Be very careful if you agree with me on this thread, you might
become a hunted man by the DUMB AZZ's......... LOL"



 
Old Dec 8, 2006 | 06:35 PM
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Gunner;

Around where I live their are more drunk Harley and Cruiser riders
killed wearing non DOT beenies then sober Sport Bike riders!

But living in moon shine country drunk driving and riding is the norm
it's been going on since the first gas engine was invented! [:'(]
Theres the crux of the situation: If you remove any fatalities athat involve alcohol, and then remove fatalities that involved the biker being killed by someone else's stupidity: Then there are so few motorcycle fatalities left that you could hardly even hold a study.

The 2 safest ways to ride a bike:
1. don't drink
2. don't ride within 2 miles of other people. including pedestrians and dead people in cemeterys.
 
Old Dec 8, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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OK" what ever you say my friend"

Don't forget to join ABATE if you haven't already"

They really need you..... LOL"


Proud to be an IL ABATE member !!
Some people do something about the things they don't like , and other people talk about their friends doing it
 
Old Dec 8, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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OK" what ever you say my friend"

Don't forget to join ABATE if you haven't already"

They really need you..... LOL"


Proud to be an IL ABATE member !!
Some people do something about the things they don't like , and other people talk about their friends doing it





I'm very happy for you my friend, people like you need to belong to something
so it might as well br ABATE it sounds to me like your made for each
other............................................. ........LOL"



 
Old Dec 8, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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[quote]ORIGINAL: dynamike74

Just posted this press release at http://www.brainbucketmagazine.com/N...e/sid=831.html

[quote]ABATE of Florida, Inc. (American Bikers Aimed Toward Education) has lobbied for the rights of motorcycle riders in the state of Florida for over twenty-five years. The battle lines were drawn between ABATE and Florida legislators in the 1980’s over motorcycle helmet usage laws. ABATE has always contended it was the crash and not the helmet which determined the outcome. The latest statistics released by The Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles, in the yearly Traffic Crash Report, strongly support that contention.

Of the 477 riders and their passengers who were killed while riding motorcycles during 2005, 57 percent (272) were wearing safety helmets. In every category of the Traffic Crash Report, riders wearing helmets incurred more injuries, and a higher percentage of fatalities than their non-helmeted counterparts. This disparity could be explained by a number of factors encountered by riders. In the Florida heat and humidity, fatigue is minimized for the rider without a helmet allowing them to ride more alertly. The infringement on the senses, caused by most helmets, could also be less for the non-helmeted rider. It is also possible the helmeted rider perceives their helmet as a cloak of protection, consequently causing the rider to drop their defensive riding alertness.

It has been easy for legislators and the non-riding public to blame lack of helmet use for all motorcycle deaths. Every publicized report of a motorcycle crash in the past few years has centered on the helmet use of the rider, even when a car or truck driver caused the crash. One only needs to look at the Ben Roethlisberger crash. Every media source played up the helmet issue or the lack there of, instead of the failure of the car driver that hit the motorcycle riding football player, to yield the right-of-way. The use of a helmet is clearly not the true issue.

Distracted drivers, inexperienced motorcycle riders, lack of attention to safe vehicle operation and increased traffic congestion are problems that continue to grow in every community. Public motorcycle awareness and personal responsibility by bikers, in the operation of their motorcycles, is the key to reducing the number of crashes that occur. Fewer crashes would correlate to a decrease in the number of riders who are injured and killed each year. Motorcycle crash prevention needs to be taken seriously by riders, drivers, educators and legislators, in order to reduce the number of motorcycle deaths.

Over the past five years, ABATE has offered a free motorcycle awareness program to the community. Many area high schools receive the class in association with driver education. Billboards have been posted on Florida highways to bring motorcycle rider awareness to the driving public. Safety education information has been dispersed to the motorcycle community and The Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles has been successfully encouraged to increase the amount of money spent on motorcycle safety. It is impossible to judge the number of riders whose lives have been saved by this campaign. We can only keep track of those who were not.

In this election year, ABATE of Florida, Inc. encouraged bikers, across the state, to make motorcycle issues a concern for their candidates. With a constituency of over 800,000 riders, plus their friends and families, taking the Florida biker and issues of concern to riders, seriously, could make or break a candidate at the poles and in their professional endeavors. ABATE helps bikers in Florida keep a close eye on issues affecting their life style, on the voting records of legislators, including who support personal responsibility and accountability and those who vote against personal freedoms.

Every rider has a voice and a choice. It is clearly up to the individual ho
 
Old Dec 8, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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Having survived a 60 mph combined speed head on crash with a Ford station wagon while wearing a Bell MC helmet I do recommend a helmet as I wear one all the time. Your skull & brain are an amazing piece of equipment but not too forgiving when it comes to being slammed against hard solid objects like pavement.

What happens is that you bruise your brain when it bounces off the inside of your skull as it contacts the street. This causes bleeding & swelling and vasospasm(constricting) of the veins & arteries in your brain which cuts off blood flow & oxygen to your brain. This usually results in coma & brain damage or dysfunction as parts of your brain die. This is not a good thing because even though you are a brain damaged spaz........you are now burden #1 to your family forever. If you have ever had to deal with a brain damaged sibling or other family member........you know what I mean, you know how difficult it is.

Now there is one issue that many people wish to ignore......that helmets protect your brain and prevent the above scenario. SO, my best recommendation is this......tell the government to screw off.......none of their damn business. But in all fairness, you should ask the members of your family if they are willing to take care of you in a vegetative state if you get brain injured from riding without a helmet.......in fact take a poll from all of your closest family members and let them decide because after all........if I am right and you are wrong.......they are the ones who have to look at you like that for the rest of your life......or maybe even pull the plug on your vegetable a$$ if necessary.

Shouldn't they have a say in the matter?
 
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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Can you answer me this? Why do you self-righteous folks always come with the “think about your family card” ? If you are so concerned about the outcome of being in an accident and how it will affect your family, then why the hell do you inconsiderate people even get the guts to throw your leg over the bike and go for a ride? And for that matter, why do you drive a cage instead of riding the bus?

Are you telling me that the fact that you have decided to wear a helmet absolves you from the responsibility of being there for your family in the event you die in an accident?

“Well, we are alone now, trying to survive and keep food on the table. I don’t blame him though because he was wearing a helmet when he got in a crash and died and that makes all the difference in the world.”

Pleeeeeze…

Dead is dead – Your family will suffer regardless.

So think of your family people. Don’t gamble with your life. Sell your bike and your car and ride the bus…
 
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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Can you answer me this? Why do you self-righteous folks always come with the “think about your family card” ? If you are so concerned about the outcome of being in an accident and how it will affect your family, then why the hell do you inconsiderate people even get the guts to throw your leg over the bike and go for a ride? And for that matter, why do you drive a cage instead of riding the bus?

Are you telling me that the fact that you have decided to wear a helmet absolves you from the responsibility of being there for your family in the event you die in an accident?

“Well, we are alone now, trying to survive and keep food on the table. I don’t blame him though because he was wearing a helmet when he got in a crash and died and that makes all the difference in the world.”

Pleeeeeze…

Dead is dead – Your family will suffer regardless.

So think of your family people. Don’t gamble with your life. Sell your bike and your car and ride the bus…







Your not really expecting an answer are you????



 



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