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EPA has fast-tracked the approval for 50% increase in ethanol
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Some people seemed confused, so to clarify: 50% increase means going from 10% ethanol to 15% ethanol, not 50% ethanol.
I personally try to keep ethanol out of my vehicles, but in theory ethanol is a great idea. Home-grown fuel, lower emissions, less OPEC reliance, etc. The problem, as many have pointed out is that most vehicles aren't really made to run on it, and it hurts the economy to redirect the use of corn for ethanol production.
I recently took a couple college courses about energy sustainability and climate change (among other things), and ethanol was discussed in detail. The hope is that we will soon be able to produce ethanol from fibrous plant waste like corn husks, or grasses that can be grown and regrown very rapidly. Once this is possible, there will be no need to use corn, and what will be used is basically what was previously considered garbage.
Where I have a problem is how the government seems intent on shoving it down our throats, despite what it may do to our cars/trucks/motorcycles. If the technology for both the production and consumption would get where it needs to be, then it would actually be a beneficial product.
Just my 2
I personally try to keep ethanol out of my vehicles, but in theory ethanol is a great idea. Home-grown fuel, lower emissions, less OPEC reliance, etc. The problem, as many have pointed out is that most vehicles aren't really made to run on it, and it hurts the economy to redirect the use of corn for ethanol production.
I recently took a couple college courses about energy sustainability and climate change (among other things), and ethanol was discussed in detail. The hope is that we will soon be able to produce ethanol from fibrous plant waste like corn husks, or grasses that can be grown and regrown very rapidly. Once this is possible, there will be no need to use corn, and what will be used is basically what was previously considered garbage.
Where I have a problem is how the government seems intent on shoving it down our throats, despite what it may do to our cars/trucks/motorcycles. If the technology for both the production and consumption would get where it needs to be, then it would actually be a beneficial product.
Just my 2
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There is nothing fundamentally wrong with alcohol as a fuel, except that it costs more to produce and it takes more to get the same amount of work done.
*shrug*
There will be a time, in the not too distant future, where gasoline will be hard to come by and internal combustion engines will be "vintage" technology. For hobbyists, brewing your own alcohol might be the only option for keeping your cars, trucks, and motorcycles on the road. What is cool about alcohol is that you can make it from just about anything.
*shrug*
There will be a time, in the not too distant future, where gasoline will be hard to come by and internal combustion engines will be "vintage" technology. For hobbyists, brewing your own alcohol might be the only option for keeping your cars, trucks, and motorcycles on the road. What is cool about alcohol is that you can make it from just about anything.
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I personally try to keep ethanol out of my vehicles, but in theory ethanol is a great idea. Home-grown fuel, lower emissions, less OPEC reliance, etc. The problem, as many have pointed out is that most vehicles aren't really made to run on it, and it hurts the economy to redirect the use of corn for ethanol production.
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....and we'll all be driving around in those cute little electric cars that can go, what, 40 miles or so, then need to be plugged in overnight? Right.
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I use Star Tron but it annoys me that I have to. I recently found a station alongside a road I ride frequently that has non ethanol but only in 87 octane. But doesn't this belong in the off topic section????
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It's gonna happen and probably in my lifetime. You heard it here first. Except they won't be "cute" or "little". The will be full sized cars and they will make as much or more horse power than similar gasoline powered cars of today. They will have a single charge range of over 300 miles and can be fully re-charged in about an hour.
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Look at it as an opportunity. Think I'll start growing corn!
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The future is actually hydrogen.
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Here is a website for non ethanol gas stations:
http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp