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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 05:59 PM
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I just sold my Ultra Classic Electra Glide and am going to buy a Fatboy Lo (please - this thread is not about the better bike or the wisdom of "trading-down"). I test drove the Fatboy Lo recently and noticed that at lower speeds, it was a little harder to get the bike to lean into a turn than it was with the Ultra. With the Ultra, is seems all you have to do is countersteer a little bit and the bike leans right over. Is this due to the difference in rake? The rake for the Fatboy Lo is 31.6 degrees and for the Ultra it is 26 degrees. If you think it is the rake, what is the physics that makes it harder to get the bike to lean. If not, what is it?
 
Old Oct 25, 2012 | 06:10 PM
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A bike with less rake will steer much faster and require less turn on the bars and have lighter steering. Trail also comes into play. Another factor is tire width. A bike with fat tires will be more difficult to steer and require more effort.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle...cycle_geometry
 
Old Oct 25, 2012 | 06:12 PM
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Mike, the Harley tour bikes have a unique geometry, with "reverse triple trees." Look under the fairing on a tour bike, and you will see the triple trees behind the fork. Most bikes have them in front. That is the main difference. Once mastered, the Harley tour bikes rock in slow speed manuevers.
 
Old Oct 25, 2012 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MNPGRider
Mike, the Harley tour bikes have a unique geometry, with "reverse triple trees." Look under the fairing on a tour bike, and you will see the triple trees behind the fork. Most bikes have them in front. That is the main difference. Once mastered, the Harley tour bikes rock in slow speed manuevers.

+1!!

Drove my friends Road Star and man what a difference in turn-in effort, my EGC just goes where I want it to, the Yamaha liked to put up an arguement.



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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MNPGRider
Mike, the Harley tour bikes have a unique geometry, with "reverse triple trees." Look under the fairing on a tour bike, and you will see the triple trees behind the fork. Most bikes have them in front. That is the main difference. Once mastered, the Harley tour bikes rock in slow speed manuevers.
Actually, it is the exact opposite. Touring bikes have the fork tubes behind the neck post of the trees, while the "normal" is to have the fork tubes in front of the neck post.
 
Old Oct 25, 2012 | 09:47 PM
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Here's a link to some great info on rake and trail and what they mean.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...3QXXHQ&cad=rja
 
Old Oct 26, 2012 | 07:00 AM
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Try a Fatbob for rake effect handling. Awesome.
 
Old Oct 26, 2012 | 08:43 AM
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[quote=patrickd;10483731]Here's a link to some great info on rake and trail and what they mean.

Great article, thank you for sharing it.
 
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