Pulled over wtf.
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Cruiser
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From: reading pa
Pulled over wtf.
So got pulled over doing 43 in a 30. So it was a city cop. So I say how did you get me. He says there's two white lines painted 100ft apart and I was time. No sensers. No radar. Basically a cop with a stop watch. What do you think my odds of beating this ticket are ? I mean that's kind of crazy. Also it was 3 am dark out. Have to be pretty precise as to when you start stop that watch. All opinions appreciated.
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From: N. CA & East TN
Working traffic enforcement, this is not something I would ever think of doing, but I am in California. I understand how you could do it with math, so I would say yes. You can attack where he saw you, argue that perception and reaction is a little over a second, so it took him longer to stop the watch once you were there, and then attack his math. I would subpoena his notes on his ticket. Your defense would have to argue that the way he got your speed was wrong or that his math is wrong. 13 over limit is a short window for a 100 foot distance, don't quite get that. This is something CHP aircraft do in California, but they use a considerable distance not 100 feet
Road Captain
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Pretty slim chance to get off. Municipal police in our state aren't allowed to use radar so using a chronometer is pretty standard. 13 over is a pretty shitty pick though. I always allowed 15 over. At 16 over you are mine 
Ask for a hearing and see if the cop will agree on a 3111a (Obediance to Traffic control devices). You still pay a fine but no points.
Ask for a hearing and see if the cop will agree on a 3111a (Obediance to Traffic control devices). You still pay a fine but no points.
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From: Maryland
I think things are different in each state, so that makes it hard to say. In Maryland I take EVERYTHING to court. No cop and the ticket is dropped. Cop shows you still are likely to get a break. In this case I'd plead not guilty and make him prove it. I'd say you have a decent chance. But...that is why the lines were put there and he can issue a ticket based on those lines. He's a professional remember.
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Cruiser
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From: reading pa
That's what I was thinking. I was speeding. But come on if your going to get pulled over for speeding atleast use a piece of equipment that get the exact speed. Not guesstamating my speed
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I would consider challenging it. If the officer bothers to show up in court, I'd make him prove that his stop watch was working and had been properly maintained. Then I ask him if he had been professionally trained to use it. He's trying to time a moving vehicle between two lines? There's got t be a lot of human error involved with that.