No Weapons Allowed!!
Cruiser
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 165
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From: New York
Some of you don't seem to understand that your rights end at anyone's private property lines, whether or not that property is open to the public.
You do NOT have the right to be armed while on someone else's property. The property owner may permit it, but it is not your right.
As far as "only law abiding citizens will obey the No Weapon signs", that criminals won't, you all seem to forget that law abiding citizens can and do lose their tempers, get violently angry.
I think it's great if any establishment allows weapon carry, but I don't hold it against them if they don't, whatever their reason, because that's their right.
You do NOT have the right to be armed while on someone else's property. The property owner may permit it, but it is not your right.
As far as "only law abiding citizens will obey the No Weapon signs", that criminals won't, you all seem to forget that law abiding citizens can and do lose their tempers, get violently angry.
I think it's great if any establishment allows weapon carry, but I don't hold it against them if they don't, whatever their reason, because that's their right.
Cruiser
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 117
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From: Houston Pa
The local HD dealer has events (daytona party, 4th of july party, etc..) that sometimes draw a few 100 people. Mix alcohol, women ( most half naked selling shots), mc clubs that don't always see eye to eye, and a bad situation could develop quickly. I understand even if I don't agree with a dealer posting a sign from a liability standpoint.
Cruiser
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 129
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From: Mt Vernon, Ohio
You may not believe in GUNS....and you may not believe in GOD.......But when the $hit hits the fan...you're gonna 1) Call somebody with a GUN....and 2) pray to GOD they get there in time!
I completely agree with a property owners right to post their property "no guns."
I just choose to do business elsewhere.
I completely agree with a property owners right to post their property "no guns."
I just choose to do business elsewhere.
Extreme HDF Member
Joined: Jan 2012
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From: NE Philly
Some of you don't seem to understand that your rights end at anyone's private property lines, whether or not that property is open to the public.
You do NOT have the right to be armed while on someone else's property. The property owner may permit it, but it is not your right.
As far as "only law abiding citizens will obey the No Weapon signs", that criminals won't, you all seem to forget that law abiding citizens can and do lose their tempers, get violently angry.
I think it's great if any establishment allows weapon carry, but I don't hold it against them if they don't, whatever their reason, because that's their right.
You do NOT have the right to be armed while on someone else's property. The property owner may permit it, but it is not your right.
As far as "only law abiding citizens will obey the No Weapon signs", that criminals won't, you all seem to forget that law abiding citizens can and do lose their tempers, get violently angry.
I think it's great if any establishment allows weapon carry, but I don't hold it against them if they don't, whatever their reason, because that's their right.
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Aug 2010
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From: Mpls, MN
Well, not to stir the pot either, but I continue to believe it was a valid question.
Now, if I was certain that this whole topic wouldn't turn into a confrontation, I would have asked what your position is regarding carrying at work because most if not all employers prohibit employees from carrying weapons in the workplace, therefore they restrict their ability to protect themselves.
So what would you do? Go work somewhere else?
Again, let's keep it civil.
Now, if I was certain that this whole topic wouldn't turn into a confrontation, I would have asked what your position is regarding carrying at work because most if not all employers prohibit employees from carrying weapons in the workplace, therefore they restrict their ability to protect themselves.
So what would you do? Go work somewhere else?
Again, let's keep it civil.
This isn't absolutes we're dealing with, I can refuse to purchase a product easily enough with out a major distraction in my life, I can not change jobs as easily.
The posting of these signs is not worth losing a job over, nor is it needed.
Does that make me hypocritical?
Maybe, but you have to use some sort of common sense also.
I can not carry at work, so I don't, and it becomes one of the few exceptions to my beliefs on not frequenting places with the "no guns" sign.
Govt offices and schools are other places.
I can although voice my displeasure with those places at the voting booth.
imho.
al
Road Warrior
Joined: Sep 2011
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From: Raleigh, NC
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From: NorCal Rocklin
Is everyone here compensating for something they dont have?
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Road Warrior
Joined: Sep 2011
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From: Raleigh, NC
My response was only about "only law abiding citizens" obeying those no weapon signs, and that where weapons are allowed, that previously law abiding citizen may lose his temper after entering the establishment.
This is one reason why I'm 100% behind any bar that doesn't allow weapons!
Road Master
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 1,000
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From: flyover country
My employer has the goofy sign. I choose to obey their wishes because they PAY ME to go in their building and work.
It's the right of a business that wants to sell me goods or services to post that sign, and my right as a consumer to turn around at the door or go in and SPEND NOTHING there. Typically, I avoid them.
It's the right of a business that wants to sell me goods or services to post that sign, and my right as a consumer to turn around at the door or go in and SPEND NOTHING there. Typically, I avoid them.