Passing this along as a Request
Road Warrior
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From: Raleigh, NC
The point is NO ONE STOPPED, except a fellow Biker. This sickens me knowing if one of my family/friend members were in such an incident and no-one even stopped to just secure the scene to prevent further injury is just appalling. It is unfortunate that most these days will not stop to help another fellow human being, especially one in grave danger. What are we teaching one another, our children...maybe just part of America slipping away from the way I was raised. I can count twice where I have stopped to help others who needed it in the last month alone...a young girl broken down in traffic, and 2 days ago a guy trying to load his bike into a pickup by himself (not so smart). But I did so because they needed help, my boys where with me and I want to teach them they should be helping out their neighbors and such, and the reality is I have been there before where I needed help. Where ever I may be going is still gonna be there if I need to divert a few minutes for someone else.
We all have heard how the world is changing...maybe people these days like it...like living in a bubble where they go about their lives. I prefer different, I like folks...we ride because we like the journey...OH HELL I am preaching to the choir and I know you folks reading this get what I am saying...
We all have heard how the world is changing...maybe people these days like it...like living in a bubble where they go about their lives. I prefer different, I like folks...we ride because we like the journey...OH HELL I am preaching to the choir and I know you folks reading this get what I am saying...
Riders by nature have a greater situational awareness than most cagers, and that awareness in cagers is dying for sure.
Road Master
Joined: Oct 2012
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From: Columbus, GA
Just playing devil's advocate, but yes and no.
Many states differentiate on the scene aid provided by trained professionals and the untrained person. The intent behind the laws has been to protect the professionals, but many have extended to people like us.
The problem is that the untrained can do more harm than good. What's the first thing the professionals do with accident victims? Get them into a neck brace before they even think of moving them. How many of us carry a neck brace? And that's the point: no problem giving them comfort, but never, ever move the victim. Sounds obvious, but it's not to many, and no matter how good the intentions are by everyone, the fact is that your attempts could greatly aggravate injuries.
I agree about our law suit happy society, but that's of little comfort to someone who's paralyzed who might not have been if someone with good intentions had left him to the professionals.
Stop and give aid by stop bleeding if you can, cover to keep warm, but never move the victim whether they may sue you or not.
Many states differentiate on the scene aid provided by trained professionals and the untrained person. The intent behind the laws has been to protect the professionals, but many have extended to people like us.
The problem is that the untrained can do more harm than good. What's the first thing the professionals do with accident victims? Get them into a neck brace before they even think of moving them. How many of us carry a neck brace? And that's the point: no problem giving them comfort, but never, ever move the victim. Sounds obvious, but it's not to many, and no matter how good the intentions are by everyone, the fact is that your attempts could greatly aggravate injuries.
I agree about our law suit happy society, but that's of little comfort to someone who's paralyzed who might not have been if someone with good intentions had left him to the professionals.
Stop and give aid by stop bleeding if you can, cover to keep warm, but never move the victim whether they may sue you or not.
Tourer
Joined: Sep 2012
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From: South Carolina
America is dying. She can be saved but she is dying and has been for a long while. How many of you know your neighbors like you did growing up? People are becoming more recluse and boxed in, using only social media to interact with masses. Hell did you see that news story in Cleveland with those girls that were kept in a house for 10 years and the neighbors never had any idea? Crazy.
There is a scientific reason why people don't stop. The more people are in an area or crowd the less likely they are to help because they think "somone else will do it". If they are by themselves or in small groups they are more likely to assist.
I can't remember what the scientific theory is called but I call it Cowardice. I would make it more of a crime to do nothing than to try and help and cause complications.
There is a scientific reason why people don't stop. The more people are in an area or crowd the less likely they are to help because they think "somone else will do it". If they are by themselves or in small groups they are more likely to assist.
I can't remember what the scientific theory is called but I call it Cowardice. I would make it more of a crime to do nothing than to try and help and cause complications.
Road Captain
Joined: Mar 2010
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From: Martinsville, IN
I have to believe that I would risk that just to get my fellow biker offf of the road. I'm sure the only person that sues is the one you help. It is sad that we have to fear helping someone.
Road Warrior
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From: Raleigh, NC
Road Master
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From: Columbus, GA
You keep trying to make excuses for those that failed to act.
Road Warrior
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From: Raleigh, NC
All I'm doing is not making all of the assumptions that you and some others are making.
I would have stopped and I said so in my first post.
I can understand some not stopping because they didn't care.
I can believe that some or many didn't even see it because of distractions.
I can believe that some or many didn't stop because they saw that someone else already had.
You're the one who insists that most people are scum bags. I don't.
How do you interpret any of this as me not believing the right and decent thing to do would have been to stop?
Get off your damn horse and grow up.
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From: SW FL-Jersey Shore Emigre
Here in NJ it's worth your life to stop and give aid to a distressed fellow motorist or rider. That said, I would have stopped (and HAVE stopped).
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From: Land of the cold....
great story.....3 years ago in sturgis we where going down Needles Hwy when traffic was at a dead stop we where 20 or 30 bikes back and could see 2 bikes on the ground so my group with no words or anything put kick stands down and ran up there to my suprise this is what we seen......no one not even one person was helping theses people on the ground everyone just kept trying to get around them really bikers where just missing there heads and going around!!!!well the accident was in a tight corner and one guy came across the lane into the others lane and had a head on....as we directed traffic and tend to the 2 guys on the ground we had people almost hit us and at one point i had to stand in front of one the guys on the ground head becuse the people going around were missing his head by inches........was a very sad day for the bike comunity in my eyes.......alot weekend riders who wont help let alone not get in the way.....
Dirt don't hurt
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From: Haslet Texas
There are only 2 reasons I can think of not to stop.
1) You are already transporting someone to the hospital who has a serious injury.
2) There are already several people stopped and one more would just get in the way.
Other than those I can think of no reason good enough not to stop......
As for the distracted drivers if they can go around the accident they aren't that distracted.
In my area when I grew up if the first car didn't stop for you the second one would.
Now no one stops.
I was broke down on the side of the road for 1 1/2 hours before I could get help.
I can't tell you how many "bikers" went by.
1) You are already transporting someone to the hospital who has a serious injury.
2) There are already several people stopped and one more would just get in the way.
Other than those I can think of no reason good enough not to stop......
As for the distracted drivers if they can go around the accident they aren't that distracted.
In my area when I grew up if the first car didn't stop for you the second one would.
Now no one stops.
I was broke down on the side of the road for 1 1/2 hours before I could get help.
I can't tell you how many "bikers" went by.
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