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Old Nov 11, 2013 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tar_snake
Harley seems to be dumbing-down their bikes just like the automotive industry. For example, one starts their new vehicle now and the lights are on constantly because the drivers are too stupid to be able to figure out when they're supposed to use them. Now Harley with the linked brakes...the riders are too stupid to be able to utilize the front and rear as they need on their own.

Thank all this on the education system dumbing-down every generation and making them conforming sheeple to the governments whims.
Harley-Davidson didn't invent or innovate linked brakes. They've been around for a while used by several manufacturers.
 
Old Nov 11, 2013 | 03:07 PM
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When I was younger riding dirt bikes, linked brakes had a completely different meaning. It was when your front brake cable linked onto a tree branch and you immediately took a trip out the front door head first.
 
Old Nov 11, 2013 | 04:43 PM
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FWIW - back in the olden days

My 1987 Yamaha Venture 1300 Tourer had linked braking.

When applying the rear foot brake it would engage the rear caliper and the left front caliper only (not the right front caliper) and the bike would come to a stop with NO tendency to pull either left or right, (and stand up perfectly straight at stop completion). I could pull up to stop signs just using my brake peddle and stop (perfectly) straight up.

This was stock OEM on all Venturers, also stock was electric anti-dive front forks which held the front forks up (about 50%) during braking, with a blow-by valve if you hit bumps or a pothole.

Both worked good - though I would have preferred not having it ... it did what it was designed to do
 
Old Nov 11, 2013 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by casique
I like to trail brake when on the twisties sometime, so I don't like it a bit.
Originally Posted by mavrickFLHR
lol.. for what it's worth... "trail braking" doesn't mean using just the rear brake.. it's means using both brakes and in some cases, the front brake.. as you lean in, or begin to counter steer in if you will.. toward the apex of the corner.. in other words.. trailing off the brakes as you make a steering change into a turn.. MotoGP guys, Superbike guys and most road racers will use "trail braking" to make faster steering changes.. especially since the front brake can load up the front suspension and help make the bike "dive in".. There's lots of info out there from folks like Freddie Spencer and Nick Ienatsch and such..

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Proper trail braking is done with the front brake only. Linked brakes don't really effect it too much, as I did it all the time on my BMW with linked brakes. The difference is all in how much lever you're using.....It's something you get used to.

Dragging the rear brake through corners is also a valid riding technique, but trail braking it ain't.
 
Old Nov 11, 2013 | 05:40 PM
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I had linked braking on my 86 Goldwing. Loved it and never had any problems
 
Old Nov 11, 2013 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by screaminroadking
So I guess the new linked braking system means an end to the conventional burn out.
Not that I have ever participated in that kind of hooliganism.
Burn outs on the 2014 models are done by placing your front wheel against a wall. Rev the motor to 3700 rpm and drop the clutch or should I say your newly fixed clutch.
 
Old Nov 11, 2013 | 06:56 PM
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Not a fan of linked braking. Just another excuse for me to buy used older HD's.
 
Old Nov 11, 2013 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by zeus33
Yea I liked it a lot better when we had drum brakes and cables. At least then you knew that when you hit the brakes hard nothing was going to happen, so you could plan for that.
So True, Probably have to be among the elders in here to remember those on bikes.


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Old Nov 11, 2013 | 07:13 PM
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I had linked brakes on a BMW R1200R I had. Their system is linked with the front brake lever only. Rear pedal, is rear brake only. It worked flawlessly and I liked it a lot. I wish I could retro fit a linked braking system on my '09 FLHX.
 
Old Nov 11, 2013 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by casique
I like to trail brake when on the twisties sometime, so I don't like it a bit.
You haven't ridden a '14 have you?

Rave reviews in my thread here:

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...-thoughts.html

Originally Posted by tar_snake
...the riders are too stupid to be able to utilize the front and rear as they need on their own.
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Since my bike isn't a track bike, I'll take ABS and linked brakes any time to save my *** because you nor I are good enough in an emergency to be faster than a computer and a pump.

Originally Posted by '05Train
Proper trail braking is done with the front brake only. Linked brakes don't really effect it too much, as I did it all the time on my BMW with linked brakes. The difference is all in how much lever you're using.....It's something you get used to.

Dragging the rear brake through corners is also a valid riding technique, but trail braking it ain't.
Incorrectly stated. Trail braking IS absolutely proper.
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