EPA needs to hear from you on E-15, join AMA if not a member
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I thought this issue was already dead. Oh well. If not, I fully support the AMA's fight against it.
"Up to 10% Ethanol" is a lot different than "15% Ethanol". Corn should be used to make whiskey, not as a motor fuel. The problems with ethanol are well documented for any intelligent person to see.
What we need, is not alternative fuels, but the desire to ween ourselves off foreign oil. The world will come to an end before the United States runs out of oil, if they'll just stop playing politics and drill for it. Politics and the EPA are the reasons we have issues today.
"Up to 10% Ethanol" is a lot different than "15% Ethanol". Corn should be used to make whiskey, not as a motor fuel. The problems with ethanol are well documented for any intelligent person to see.
What we need, is not alternative fuels, but the desire to ween ourselves off foreign oil. The world will come to an end before the United States runs out of oil, if they'll just stop playing politics and drill for it. Politics and the EPA are the reasons we have issues today.
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Ethanol is subsidized by the U.S. government at a rate of 51 cents per gallon, and federal and state subsidies for the fuel added up to $6 billion last year. As the number of gallons produced multiplies, so will the cost to the taxpayer.
Fact is, ethanol lags gasoline in fuel efficiency, and requires fossil fuels like coal or gas to refine and transport it.
Fact is, ethanol lags gasoline in fuel efficiency, and requires fossil fuels like coal or gas to refine and transport it.
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Exactly politicians and the dumb *** EPA is our biggest problems with this issue,
and anyone that supports ethanol must not understand the issues with it.
1- it absorbs water and causes contamination and corrosion in fuel systems
2- it does not react well with some of the rubbers in fuel systems
3- you get less fuel mileage out of your vehicle no matter what you are driving
That's just some of the issues and if you do not believe this is true go speak with any of the marinas or small engine shops that work on lawn equipment and motorcycles.
As stated above corn has no place in fuel, dumbest thing to be done to fuel since removing the lead, just as bad as removing sulfur from diesel fuel.
and anyone that supports ethanol must not understand the issues with it.
1- it absorbs water and causes contamination and corrosion in fuel systems
2- it does not react well with some of the rubbers in fuel systems
3- you get less fuel mileage out of your vehicle no matter what you are driving
That's just some of the issues and if you do not believe this is true go speak with any of the marinas or small engine shops that work on lawn equipment and motorcycles.
As stated above corn has no place in fuel, dumbest thing to be done to fuel since removing the lead, just as bad as removing sulfur from diesel fuel.
It also has nothing to do with the environment as ethanol is a net polluter.
The only reason we still produce this crap is because politician(s) are getting their member(s) greased.
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But you know what? You should use whatever you like. But the government should stay out of my gas tank. I am sick and tired of the government screwing up everything it touches. And sending me the bill.
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You must have an ulterior motive, or not use small engines. I have to run all my small engines dry before winter storage, or have carb damage in spring. Never had to do that before ethanol. And I haven't had any carb products since I started using non-ethanol premium in yard equipment. But that cost a lot more than regular. E15 will be worse.
But you know what? You should use whatever you like. But the government should stay out of my gas tank. I am sick and tired of the government screwing up everything it touches. And sending me the bill.
But you know what? You should use whatever you like. But the government should stay out of my gas tank. I am sick and tired of the government screwing up everything it touches. And sending me the bill.
I understand how we came to use ethanol, and I agree it was largely political. I don't agree with the subsidy, but the doom and gloom isn't reality. It's not a winnable fight using the basis that it is causing harm.
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I live in California. We have had ethanol for several years. I have a mower I use maybe twice a year. I have never had a problem using/leaving E10 gas in it - over several winters.
I understand how we came to use ethanol, and I agree it was largely political. I don't agree with the subsidy, but the doom and gloom isn't reality. It's not a winnable fight using the basis that it is causing harm.
I understand how we came to use ethanol, and I agree it was largely political. I don't agree with the subsidy, but the doom and gloom isn't reality. It's not a winnable fight using the basis that it is causing harm.
Please forgive him 'cause he know not what he speaks.