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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 12:15 PM
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The EPA needs to hear from you on E15
Submit comments before the deadline, Jan. 28!

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The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency issued a rule proposal to reduce the total amount of ethanol required in transportation fuel nationwide in 2014. The AMA supports this proposal because it could slow the introduction of E15, a gasoline formulation that contains up to 15 percent ethanol by volume, into the marketplace. The AMA opposes E15 because it can cause engine and fuel system damage to your motorcycle or ATV.

However, the EPA needs to hear from you to make changes to the ethanol mandate, known as the Renewable Fuel Standard, a reality.

The EPA is seeking public comments now on the rule proposal. You can tell them how this proposal will help protect 22 million motorcycles and all-terrain vehicles in America -- and the riders who depend on their safe operation -- from inadvertent misfueling.

The deadline for comments is Jan. 28! Act today to ensure your voice is heard.

For the latest information on the American Motorcyclist Association’s efforts to protect your access to safe fuels, go to http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/...l_in_2014.aspx.

The EPA's policy is that all comments received will be included in the public docket without change and may be made available online at www.regulations.gov, including any personal information provided.

Now more than ever, it is crucial that you and your riding friends become members of the AMA or ATVA to help protect our riding freedoms. More members mean more clout against the opponents of motorcycling and ATV riding. That support will help fight for your rights – on the road, trail, racetrack, and in the halls of government. If you are a motorcycle rider, join the AMA at AmericanMotorcyclist.com/membership/join. If you a re an ATV rider, join ATVA at www.atvaonline.com.




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Old Jan 8, 2014 | 10:17 PM
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I fully support the use of Ethanol. I have been running it in my motorcycles and vehicles for years without any problem.
 
Old Jan 8, 2014 | 10:23 PM
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I thought this issue was already dead. Oh well. If not, I fully support the AMA's fight against it.

"Up to 10% Ethanol" is a lot different than "15% Ethanol". Corn should be used to make whiskey, not as a motor fuel. The problems with ethanol are well documented for any intelligent person to see.

What we need, is not alternative fuels, but the desire to ween ourselves off foreign oil. The world will come to an end before the United States runs out of oil, if they'll just stop playing politics and drill for it. Politics and the EPA are the reasons we have issues today.
 
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Exactly politicians and the dumb *** EPA is our biggest problems with this issue,
and anyone that supports ethanol must not understand the issues with it.

1- it absorbs water and causes contamination and corrosion in fuel systems
2- it does not react well with some of the rubbers in fuel systems
3- you get less fuel mileage out of your vehicle no matter what you are driving

That's just some of the issues and if you do not believe this is true go speak with any of the marinas or small engine shops that work on lawn equipment and motorcycles.
As stated above corn has no place in fuel, dumbest thing to be done to fuel since removing the lead, just as bad as removing sulfur from diesel fuel.
 
Old Jan 8, 2014 | 10:56 PM
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I do not support biofuels.

How stupid to use a food/feed product as fuel. Hell... prairie grasses can yield far far far more biofuel product over corn.

We are rapidly decreasing foreign oil dependence, and new/existing fossil fuel sites are producing at greater and greater return. There is enough crude in Wolfcamp, Sprayberry, Eagle Ford fields in TX and the Bakken in ND than we will need in our lifetimes. The Wolf/berry estimates are nearing 50 BILLION barrels which rivals the largest field in Saudi Arabia.

Why we even have to fight against biofuels puzzles me.
 
Old Jan 9, 2014 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by rangerider
I fully support the use of Ethanol. I have been running it in my motorcycles and vehicles for years without any problem.
I hope you are being facetious. Ethanol is corrosive and will cause long term problems with motorcycles. It reduces fuel efficiency (upwards of 40%) causing you to have to use more gasoline for the same mileage as pure gas. Since it is bio-based (alcohol), it naturally absorbs water (soluble) giving you the issue of water in your fuel supply, ethanol will actually attract water vapor. The shelf life of ethanol based fuel is 3 months max, which is why you need a stabilizer if your bike sits for that long.

I recommend using an ethanol eliminator additive and see how much better your bike will run.
 
Old Jan 9, 2014 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Mi3ninos
I do not support biofuels.

How stupid to use a food/feed product as fuel. Hell... prairie grasses can yield far far far more biofuel product over corn.

Why we even have to fight against biofuels puzzles me.
I know that you really are not in the least puzzled by this. We all know that it's a "Follow the money result."

The Corn Lobby bought their politicians, and our food products cost more because of it, and our older vehicles that were not designed for this product are being harmed by it.

Even if the arguments for it are mostly valid for vehicles designed for it we should NEVER have allowed a food product to be considered for it. Yes it's cheaper for the producers, but we have lots of prairie grasses that could be used and actually help protect those lands by making them worth $, but at a somewhat higher cost for the biomass for the fuel industry. But what is it costing us consumers as a side result, and is never considered or talked about by the proponents of this additive?.

Rangerider, full disclosure, what do you do for a living? My bet is that you benefit from corn gas somehow. And 3rd post?
 

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Originally Posted by dusturbd
Exactly politicians and the dumb *** EPA is our biggest problems with this issue,
and anyone that supports ethanol must not understand the issues with it.
100% correct. There's not ONE redeeming quality of Ethanol and they all (Politicians and the EPA) know it. It's hard to believe that not only are they not dropping the Ethanol program, but INCREASING it.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...ofuels/4237539
 
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I fully support the use of Ethanol. I have been running it in my motorcycles and vehicles for years without any problem.
And how's living out of the .gov subsidies for growing ethanol targeted corn, working out for you?
 



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