Should I replace lifters?
im just coming up on 100K km's on my '01 88"TC and since i am doign tensioners figured might as well tear it all apart and have the piece of mind that its all clean and fresh. i decided on the Feulign 525 cams, feuling HP+ lifters, and of course the inner bearing upgrade. i know the gatermans and S&S are the high end of the spectrum but do some research on the feulings they are a fair bit less but should be a comparable product to the S&S lifters. made sense for me to go with them *Feulign HP+ lifters* as i am doing a feuling cam
Tourer
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From: SE Texas
Hey Ironhorse-Just curious about which cams you went with. I did a ton of research before deciding on the 48H Andrews. Figure I can always swap them out later if i go bigger displacement. Guess I will not know what shape my "B" lifters are in till I pull them out...
Sounds like having replacements on hand is a good idea...
Sounds like having replacements on hand is a good idea...
I am no expert but, from my research I dont think you can go wrong with the 48's either. I think you will probably be happy with them. Let us know how it turns out.
Seasoned HDF Member
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From: Oxford, Nc
You can save a ton of money on lifters by running these....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111077386540...#ht_285wt_1026
They've been running fine for me.
Or these....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...#ht_3430wt_838
Both are direct drop in replacement lifters. Do the research.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111077386540...#ht_285wt_1026
They've been running fine for me.
Or these....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...#ht_3430wt_838
Both are direct drop in replacement lifters. Do the research.
Ultimate HDF Member
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From: Northwestern Nevada
I'm installing FM lifters as soon as the weather lets up and my garage is above 55 degrees. Call them and ask why they think their lifters are better. I personally think that adjustable pushrods would more than make up for any wear on the stock lifters, but that's not the only concern when reusing medium / high milage moving parts.
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From: Central Fl
Here is the info for the Gatermans lifters: Address:
555 S. Warpole St.
Upper Sandusky, OH 43351
Phone:
419-294-1997
Fax:
419-294-6997
The name of the place is Hot Shot Motor Works. Check out the Gatermans web site and see why these lifters make sense. They are designed specifically for the HD motors, not a Chevy V8. If I'm changing lifters these are what my choice is.
Seasoned HDF Member
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From: Oxford, Nc
Here is the info for the Gatermans lifters: Address:
555 S. Warpole St.
Upper Sandusky, OH 43351
Phone:
419-294-1997
Fax:
419-294-6997
The name of the place is Hot Shot Motor Works. Check out the Gatermans web site and see why these lifters make sense. They are designed specifically for the HD motors, not a Chevy V8. If I'm changing lifters these are what my choice is.
555 S. Warpole St.
Upper Sandusky, OH 43351
Phone:
419-294-1997
Fax:
419-294-6997
The name of the place is Hot Shot Motor Works. Check out the Gatermans web site and see why these lifters make sense. They are designed specifically for the HD motors, not a Chevy V8. If I'm changing lifters these are what my choice is.
Look for a temp sensor, or fuel injector or fuel pump for your bike and see just how many vehicles those parts actually fit already. These upgraded aftermarket parts may indeed be improvements over OEM, but they were never spec'd by HD as necessary or recommended. But like upgraded oil pumps, "Baisley" springs, etc, etc, they make their owners feel better.
Unless you're running a radical cam, many motor builders will advise that the Chevy lifters spec's by HD as OEM are just fine. I know they are for me....
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From: Central Fl
Quote:
Originally Posted by nytryder View Post
Here is the info for the Gatermans lifters: Address:
555 S. Warpole St.
Upper Sandusky, OH 43351
Phone:
419-294-1997
Fax:
419-294-6997
The name of the place is Hot Shot Motor Works. Check out the Gatermans web site and see why these lifters make sense. They are designed specifically for the HD motors, not a Chevy V8. If I'm changing lifters these are what my choice is.
Lets not get the cart before the horse, As with many of the misc parts on a mass produced motor, the manufacturer chose the commercial product commonly available to fit their design. In other words, Harley didn't design the OEM lifter, they spec'd what they needed and found a product to fit, ie a Chevy lifter in this case.
Look for a temp sensor, or fuel injector or fuel pump for your bike and see just how many vehicles those parts actually fit already. These upgraded aftermarket parts may indeed be improvements over OEM, but they were never spec'd by HD as necessary or recommended. But like upgraded oil pumps, "Baisley" springs, etc, etc, they make their owners feel better.
Unless you're running a radical cam, many motor builders will advise that the Chevy lifters spec's by HD as OEM are just fine. I know they are for me....
I see your point. However a part designed for a specific purpose generally speaking will be superior to an off the shelf product. If the HD lifters work for you, great. I simply pointed out the there is a much better lifter available. (IMO) Harley shops for the cheapest part that will fill up space. For example, the new ''c'' lifter made in Mexico. Chinese wheel bearings, shifting crankshafts, chinese inner cam bearings, HD seats, crankshaft bearings, inner primary bearings, and on and on. Have you looked at the Gaterman lifters? Take a look and get back with me.
Originally Posted by nytryder View Post
Here is the info for the Gatermans lifters: Address:
555 S. Warpole St.
Upper Sandusky, OH 43351
Phone:
419-294-1997
Fax:
419-294-6997
The name of the place is Hot Shot Motor Works. Check out the Gatermans web site and see why these lifters make sense. They are designed specifically for the HD motors, not a Chevy V8. If I'm changing lifters these are what my choice is.
Lets not get the cart before the horse, As with many of the misc parts on a mass produced motor, the manufacturer chose the commercial product commonly available to fit their design. In other words, Harley didn't design the OEM lifter, they spec'd what they needed and found a product to fit, ie a Chevy lifter in this case.
Look for a temp sensor, or fuel injector or fuel pump for your bike and see just how many vehicles those parts actually fit already. These upgraded aftermarket parts may indeed be improvements over OEM, but they were never spec'd by HD as necessary or recommended. But like upgraded oil pumps, "Baisley" springs, etc, etc, they make their owners feel better.
Unless you're running a radical cam, many motor builders will advise that the Chevy lifters spec's by HD as OEM are just fine. I know they are for me....
I see your point. However a part designed for a specific purpose generally speaking will be superior to an off the shelf product. If the HD lifters work for you, great. I simply pointed out the there is a much better lifter available. (IMO) Harley shops for the cheapest part that will fill up space. For example, the new ''c'' lifter made in Mexico. Chinese wheel bearings, shifting crankshafts, chinese inner cam bearings, HD seats, crankshaft bearings, inner primary bearings, and on and on. Have you looked at the Gaterman lifters? Take a look and get back with me.
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Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 17,548
Likes: 7,197
From: Oxford, Nc
Quote:
Originally Posted by nytryder View Post
Here is the info for the Gatermans lifters: Address:
555 S. Warpole St.
Upper Sandusky, OH 43351
Phone:
419-294-1997
Fax:
419-294-6997
The name of the place is Hot Shot Motor Works. Check out the Gatermans web site and see why these lifters make sense. They are designed specifically for the HD motors, not a Chevy V8. If I'm changing lifters these are what my choice is.
Lets not get the cart before the horse, As with many of the misc parts on a mass produced motor, the manufacturer chose the commercial product commonly available to fit their design. In other words, Harley didn't design the OEM lifter, they spec'd what they needed and found a product to fit, ie a Chevy lifter in this case.
Look for a temp sensor, or fuel injector or fuel pump for your bike and see just how many vehicles those parts actually fit already. These upgraded aftermarket parts may indeed be improvements over OEM, but they were never spec'd by HD as necessary or recommended. But like upgraded oil pumps, "Baisley" springs, etc, etc, they make their owners feel better.
Unless you're running a radical cam, many motor builders will advise that the Chevy lifters spec's by HD as OEM are just fine. I know they are for me....
I see your point. However a part designed for a specific purpose generally speaking will be superior to an off the shelf product. If the HD lifters work for you, great. I simply pointed out the there is a much better lifter available. (IMO) Harley shops for the cheapest part that will fill up space. For example, the new ''c'' lifter made in Mexico. Chinese wheel bearings, shifting crankshafts, chinese inner cam bearings, HD seats, crankshaft bearings, inner primary bearings, and on and on. Have you looked at the Gaterman lifters? Take a look and get back with me.
Originally Posted by nytryder View Post
Here is the info for the Gatermans lifters: Address:
555 S. Warpole St.
Upper Sandusky, OH 43351
Phone:
419-294-1997
Fax:
419-294-6997
The name of the place is Hot Shot Motor Works. Check out the Gatermans web site and see why these lifters make sense. They are designed specifically for the HD motors, not a Chevy V8. If I'm changing lifters these are what my choice is.
Lets not get the cart before the horse, As with many of the misc parts on a mass produced motor, the manufacturer chose the commercial product commonly available to fit their design. In other words, Harley didn't design the OEM lifter, they spec'd what they needed and found a product to fit, ie a Chevy lifter in this case.
Look for a temp sensor, or fuel injector or fuel pump for your bike and see just how many vehicles those parts actually fit already. These upgraded aftermarket parts may indeed be improvements over OEM, but they were never spec'd by HD as necessary or recommended. But like upgraded oil pumps, "Baisley" springs, etc, etc, they make their owners feel better.
Unless you're running a radical cam, many motor builders will advise that the Chevy lifters spec's by HD as OEM are just fine. I know they are for me....
I see your point. However a part designed for a specific purpose generally speaking will be superior to an off the shelf product. If the HD lifters work for you, great. I simply pointed out the there is a much better lifter available. (IMO) Harley shops for the cheapest part that will fill up space. For example, the new ''c'' lifter made in Mexico. Chinese wheel bearings, shifting crankshafts, chinese inner cam bearings, HD seats, crankshaft bearings, inner primary bearings, and on and on. Have you looked at the Gaterman lifters? Take a look and get back with me.
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From: Central Florida
Thanks for all the input. I have decided to replace the lifters with the Gatermans. Got a good deal on them from Hot-Shot Motorworks. They are in the middle of the pack as far as higher priced lifters go...(compared to S&S and Woods) Probably overkill for my needs, but if I go more radical with the motor in the not too distant future, I will be covered. Compared to all the money I've blown on stupid sh%# in the past, this doesn't seem like a bad choice...
Now I need to get the rest of my parts together. Still need the cams, bearings, gaskets, and special tools. Will be buying stuff a little at a time until I have it all together. That way I can keep it off the spending radar if you get my drift...
Will post up on my progress.
Now I need to get the rest of my parts together. Still need the cams, bearings, gaskets, and special tools. Will be buying stuff a little at a time until I have it all together. That way I can keep it off the spending radar if you get my drift...
Will post up on my progress.
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