Another one down (rant)
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RE: Another one down (rant)
ORIGINAL: jbe
The only way people will stop using cell phone in a vehicle is for the manufactures to install a shield or jamming device in the car or truck. I hate cell phones. I have one but I do not give out my number. Why would someone want to be called anytime or any place. The only reason I have it is because it is cheaper that the landline. Hands free is not the answer. They are still distracted.
The only way people will stop using cell phone in a vehicle is for the manufactures to install a shield or jamming device in the car or truck. I hate cell phones. I have one but I do not give out my number. Why would someone want to be called anytime or any place. The only reason I have it is because it is cheaper that the landline. Hands free is not the answer. They are still distracted.
Road Captain
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RE: Another one down (rant)
Thinking back a few years what the fu@k did we do before cell phones? We waited till we got somewhere to use a phone right well wait till you pull over or stop to use a cell phone those few moments by doing so could save many lives. My 2 cents.
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RE: Another one down (rant)
ORIGINAL: TEK 679
Thinking back a few years what the fu@k did we do before cell phones? We waited till we got somewhere to use a phone right well wait till you pull over or stop to use a cell phone those few moments by doing so could save many lives. My 2 cents.
Thinking back a few years what the fu@k did we do before cell phones? We waited till we got somewhere to use a phone right well wait till you pull over or stop to use a cell phone those few moments by doing so could save many lives. My 2 cents.
How about everyone leavetheir car or motorcycle
at home and take a taxi whenthey go out to drink!
That would savea 100times more livesover people
pulling over to use a cell phone!
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RE: Another one down (rant)
Well... it's going to get worse. Watch for three new Volvo ads:
First one: A couple is going to be late to something and he is revving too fast on streets in town. Lollygagging, grinning and looking at each other. Just before he rear-ends a truck a (radar?) alarm goes off so he looks up and whips around it in time without slowing down. Then, more grinning. Life's just wonderful.
Second one: Woman on a neighborhood street drops papers which she was fumbling with so she bends down in her seat to get them and only comes up for air when her alarm goes off right before she would have ran into a car stopped at a school crossing with people in the street in front of it. Hey, no harm, right?
Third one: Guy notices his exit ramp coming up and is already whipping it into the right lane when his side radar alarm goes off and a scoot with two aboard misses him by a few feet as he pulls back into his left lane. Hey, no blood - no foul.
Now... what is basically wrong that those three genetic freaks even got into those messes? And... if you buy a Volvo with sooper-dooper radar/alarms then you can just relax and get away with being a jerk driver, too?
Sheesh[:@][:@]
First one: A couple is going to be late to something and he is revving too fast on streets in town. Lollygagging, grinning and looking at each other. Just before he rear-ends a truck a (radar?) alarm goes off so he looks up and whips around it in time without slowing down. Then, more grinning. Life's just wonderful.
Second one: Woman on a neighborhood street drops papers which she was fumbling with so she bends down in her seat to get them and only comes up for air when her alarm goes off right before she would have ran into a car stopped at a school crossing with people in the street in front of it. Hey, no harm, right?
Third one: Guy notices his exit ramp coming up and is already whipping it into the right lane when his side radar alarm goes off and a scoot with two aboard misses him by a few feet as he pulls back into his left lane. Hey, no blood - no foul.
Now... what is basically wrong that those three genetic freaks even got into those messes? And... if you buy a Volvo with sooper-dooper radar/alarms then you can just relax and get away with being a jerk driver, too?
Sheesh[:@][:@]
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RE: Another one down (rant)
ORIGINAL: Big Sled
Well... it's going to get worse. Watch for three new Volvo ads:
First one: A couple is going to be late to something and he is revving too fast on streets in town. Lollygagging, grinning and looking at each other. Just before he rear-ends a truck a (radar?) alarm goes off so he looks up and whips around it in time without slowing down. Then, more grinning. Life's just wonderful.
Second one: Woman on a neighborhood street drops papers which she was fumbling with so she bends down in her seat to get them and only comes up for air when her alarm goes off right before she would have ran into a car stopped at a school crossing with people in the street in front of it. Hey, no harm, right?
Third one: Guy notices his exit ramp coming up and is already whipping it into the right lane when his side radar alarm goes off and a scoot with two aboard misses him by a few feet as he pulls back into his left lane. Hey, no blood - no foul.
Now... what is basically wrong that those three genetic freaks even got into those messes? And... if you buy a Volvo with sooper-dooper radar/alarms then you can just relax and get away with being a jerk driver, too?
Sheesh[:@][:@]
Well... it's going to get worse. Watch for three new Volvo ads:
First one: A couple is going to be late to something and he is revving too fast on streets in town. Lollygagging, grinning and looking at each other. Just before he rear-ends a truck a (radar?) alarm goes off so he looks up and whips around it in time without slowing down. Then, more grinning. Life's just wonderful.
Second one: Woman on a neighborhood street drops papers which she was fumbling with so she bends down in her seat to get them and only comes up for air when her alarm goes off right before she would have ran into a car stopped at a school crossing with people in the street in front of it. Hey, no harm, right?
Third one: Guy notices his exit ramp coming up and is already whipping it into the right lane when his side radar alarm goes off and a scoot with two aboard misses him by a few feet as he pulls back into his left lane. Hey, no blood - no foul.
Now... what is basically wrong that those three genetic freaks even got into those messes? And... if you buy a Volvo with sooper-dooper radar/alarms then you can just relax and get away with being a jerk driver, too?
Sheesh[:@][:@]
Scenario Two... biker already at stop sign gets creamed
Scenario Three... biker gets creamed from behind by the car cut off by the sudden lane change
And it's no different if you drive a 18 wheeler or other large vehicle (RVs, busses, etc.). Cagers are clueless. I couldn't begin to count the number of times I've been cut off by cagers who have no cluethat the stopping distance of a 40,000 lb vehicle is just a little bit more than their Fiesta...
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RE: Another one down (rant)
I was riding with 4 other bikes yesterday. We stop at a light and a cop stops in the lane next to us. Guess what...he's talking on his cell phone. My freind Bobby looked over at him and shook his head. Think the cop got the message? First offense is $250 fine but it's never enforced.
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RE: Another one down (rant)
You want to stop or drastically cut down on DUI drivers?Increasethe penalties. 1st DUI 4yrs. 2nd DUI15 yrs. 3rd DUI 25yrs.Remember when you were a kid the only reason you obeyed your DAD was fear of what would happen if you didnt. Same thing applies here. I have a friend who over a 10 yr period got6 DUI's. (until the last one he had done no jail time)The last one the judge put him away for 4 yrs. He lost his wife, kids, house and job. They tried to kill him in prison and on several occasionshe even tried to kill himself. When he got out he started over. Its been 14 years since his release. He has a new life, job, wife, etc.He gave up alcohol completely. His reason was "Ineverwant to set foot in a prison again" He even admitted if he had gone to prison after the1st DUI there never would have been 5 more............BG
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RE: Another one down (rant)
Damn... regarding Volvo ad number two: well, deja vu this evening's news up and had a story on a rider stopped at a red light yesterday afternoon (I know the intersection here and it has multiple lights/well controlled you'd think) and a cage with three people in it rear-ends the bike. He had emergency surgery and sounds likemay be on the road to recovery. And... the driver drove off[:@][:@]. LEO's found the car today, ID'd the driver (hooray) and are trolling for him now. Crap... we do everything else right and are sitting still at a light and any one of us could have been the biker mashed by that jerk!
ORIGINAL: lenrough
Scenario One... biker riding next to car gets creamed
Scenario Two... biker already at stop sign gets creamed
Scenario Three... biker gets creamed from behind by the car cut off by the sudden lane change
And it's no different if you drive a 18 wheeler or other large vehicle (RVs, busses, etc.). Cagers are clueless. I couldn't begin to count the number of times I've been cut off by cagers who have no cluethat the stopping distance of a 40,000 lb vehicle is just a little bit more than their Fiesta...
ORIGINAL: Big Sled
Well... it's going to get worse. Watch for three new Volvo ads:
First one: A couple is going to be late to something and he is revving too fast on streets in town. Lollygagging, grinning and looking at each other. Just before he rear-ends a truck a (radar?) alarm goes off so he looks up and whips around it in time without slowing down. Then, more grinning. Life's just wonderful.
Second one: Woman on a neighborhood street drops papers which she was fumbling with so she bends down in her seat to get them and only comes up for air when her alarm goes off right before she would have ran into a car stopped at a school crossing with people in the street in front of it. Hey, no harm, right?
Third one: Guy notices his exit ramp coming up and is already whipping it into the right lane when his side radar alarm goes off and a scoot with two aboard misses him by a few feet as he pulls back into his left lane. Hey, no blood - no foul.
Now... what is basically wrong that those three genetic freaks even got into those messes? And... if you buy a Volvo with sooper-dooper radar/alarms then you can just relax and get away with being a jerk driver, too?
Sheesh[:@][:@]
Well... it's going to get worse. Watch for three new Volvo ads:
First one: A couple is going to be late to something and he is revving too fast on streets in town. Lollygagging, grinning and looking at each other. Just before he rear-ends a truck a (radar?) alarm goes off so he looks up and whips around it in time without slowing down. Then, more grinning. Life's just wonderful.
Second one: Woman on a neighborhood street drops papers which she was fumbling with so she bends down in her seat to get them and only comes up for air when her alarm goes off right before she would have ran into a car stopped at a school crossing with people in the street in front of it. Hey, no harm, right?
Third one: Guy notices his exit ramp coming up and is already whipping it into the right lane when his side radar alarm goes off and a scoot with two aboard misses him by a few feet as he pulls back into his left lane. Hey, no blood - no foul.
Now... what is basically wrong that those three genetic freaks even got into those messes? And... if you buy a Volvo with sooper-dooper radar/alarms then you can just relax and get away with being a jerk driver, too?
Sheesh[:@][:@]
Scenario Two... biker already at stop sign gets creamed
Scenario Three... biker gets creamed from behind by the car cut off by the sudden lane change
And it's no different if you drive a 18 wheeler or other large vehicle (RVs, busses, etc.). Cagers are clueless. I couldn't begin to count the number of times I've been cut off by cagers who have no cluethat the stopping distance of a 40,000 lb vehicle is just a little bit more than their Fiesta...
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RE: Another one down (rant)
I say let em all use cell phones, put on make up whatever. I really don't care, the more the merrier. I don't delegate my personal safety to the skill level or attention span of drivers out on the road. You folks ought not, either. If you do, eventually, the odds are not in your favor.
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RE: Another one down (rant)
I see guys on bikes with flip phones jammed under their helmets chatting away all the time. How about the people that smoke while riding, WTF is that about? That has to be a lil bit distracting. I keep seeing "cagers" maligned as the root of all evil but I see as many knuckleheads as a percentage of the whole on bikes asI do driving cars. It is a symptom of a culture that places no value on being a cautious curteous driver or rider, hell a cautious curteous human being, connection?
I suspect that the good riders and drivers behave the way they do because that is how they conduct everything they do, irresponsible ones the same. It is too easy to obtain a license of any type so the goofs get wheels, some four some two. The only thing that will help is taking licensing as serious as it is. People have the impression that driving and riding is a right, something they don't need to earn, that should change. When a little rich kid can't by a viper or his sister an escalade as a first car because while they have the means (money)they don't have the credentials (proven driving experience earned over time in a lesser vehicle) you will see far less dangers coming from people like this. Similarly if a newb rider is not allowed to just jump on a Gixxer or a Texas chopper than the number of dumb biker accidents will drop. Proactivity will save more lives then reactivity. Keeping the dummies out of the seat in the first place will be far more sucessful than trying to rein them in after they are on the road.
I suspect that the good riders and drivers behave the way they do because that is how they conduct everything they do, irresponsible ones the same. It is too easy to obtain a license of any type so the goofs get wheels, some four some two. The only thing that will help is taking licensing as serious as it is. People have the impression that driving and riding is a right, something they don't need to earn, that should change. When a little rich kid can't by a viper or his sister an escalade as a first car because while they have the means (money)they don't have the credentials (proven driving experience earned over time in a lesser vehicle) you will see far less dangers coming from people like this. Similarly if a newb rider is not allowed to just jump on a Gixxer or a Texas chopper than the number of dumb biker accidents will drop. Proactivity will save more lives then reactivity. Keeping the dummies out of the seat in the first place will be far more sucessful than trying to rein them in after they are on the road.