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Old Sep 5, 2021 | 11:26 AM
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The dealers set the market adjustment, the manufacturer gets none of it.
Ok, change manufacturers to dealers, that changes nothing. Yesterday the dealer was fine selling the Stinger for $53,000, next day they decide they need another $3500. In this case, there is no way a dealer can honestly justify that kind of increase in price other than the fact they just want to. And why $3500, why not $10,000 or $20,000? Hell shoot for the moon and just double the price of the car. Hey, $106,000 take it or leave it. Ain't free enterprise great!

Call it free capitalism, supply and demand, too many dollars chasing too few products, whatever you want. It is nothing but attempting to f**k people over. No you don't HAVE to purchase a particular item, but you shouldn't have to be dealing with out and out theft either. Greed is one thing but, out and out over the top greed is totally another.

I'll say it again, and we wonder why in so many instances the government ends up stepping and imposing draconian regulations on business. Call it business shooting themselves in the foot, stepping on their own d**k, whatever. They never learn...
 
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Old Sep 5, 2021 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by firehawk6
Ok, change manufacturers to dealers, that changes nothing. Yesterday the dealer was fine selling the Stinger for $53,000, next day they decide they need another $3500. In this case, there is no way a dealer can honestly justify that kind of increase in price other than the fact they just want to. And why $3500, why not $10,000 or $20,000? Hell shoot for the moon and just double the price of the car. .
They price it for what they think the market will support. That's the way most everything works from the S&P500 to the house for rent down the street. Businesses take risk looking for reward. Sometimes they lose and close shop, other times they win and charge $40K for a CVO, $1K for an iPhone or $3.50 for venti coffee.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2021 | 07:09 PM
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I do understand free market and all, but I was wondering if inflation might be driving this.

Ive also heard that mortgage rates are too low and this could trigger something bad in the housing market?

Add to these observations all the shortages of products. And people wanting to sit home on unemployment.

Im just thinking something is going to happen in the near future that will not be good.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 09:46 AM
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If people would stop paying inflated " market adjusted" prices then prices would drop.

I support businesses trying to maximize profits based on demands. It's up to us, the consumer to determine how much they can get a way with and right now folks seems to be buying at inflated prices.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 09:53 AM
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Anything over MSRP is money you throw away. Remember the outrageous price markups on the first PT Cruisers. And who the hell would pay $60K for a freakin KIA.

Anyhow, my local Harley dealer has all their tags at MSRP, and no add ons other than, destination, documentation, and , tax.
 
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This **** is nothing new. Companies capitalize on "cool factor" all the time. It's why Jeep Wranglers are so absurdly expensive. It's why a new Honda Odyssey costs $7,000 less than a new Pilot even though they are built on an almost IDENTICAL unibody frame and the Odyssey has more components.
 
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Originally Posted by OKMICK
The dealers set the market adjustment, the manufacturer gets none of it.
Not exactly. At least in the auto industry, well the Asian manufacturers anyway. The dealers and the manufacturer are they same company, but they aren't. It's like taking money out of one pocket it and putting it in another. It's why published sales figures are total BS. A vehicle is considered "sold" as soon as it rolls off the line, no matter how long it sits on the lot.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2021 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by brownie4412
Not exactly. At least in the auto industry, well the Asian manufacturers anyway. The dealers and the manufacturer are they same company, but they aren't. It's like taking money out of one pocket it and putting it in another. It's why published sales figures are total BS. A vehicle is considered "sold" as soon as it rolls off the line, no matter how long it sits on the lot.
I was a general manager/dealer for 30 years. What are your qualifications?
 
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Originally Posted by OKMICK
I was a general manager/dealer for 30 years. What are your qualifications?
I'm not surprised, you definitely act like a car salesman. I'm a New Model Manufacturing Engineer for a very large foreign automaker, and at this company that's exactly how it works. On paper the cars are sold before the plants even start building them.
 
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Originally Posted by brownie4412
I'm not surprised, you definitely act like a car salesman. I'm a New Model Manufacturing Engineer for a very large foreign automaker, and at this company that's exactly how it works. On paper the cars are sold before the plants even start building them.
​​​​​​Educate yourself on automobile franchise laws and then we can discuss. No, on second thought you act exactly like a know it all engineer. Never mind.

 
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