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Old May 25, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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I know this subject has probably been covered elsewhere but I was wondering what exactly the Stage 1 upgrade entails. I have to wait until spring 2006 to put new pipes on my 2005 Sportster XL 1200C because it's my understanding that the pipes, air cleaner and carb rejet runs about $600, is this correct or has anyone had a different cost experience??? Also, I'm just looking for a little more rumble and to take the leanness out of the carb so that I get a little better performance, nothing major, I like to cruise but I also want to be able to get on her when I need to so I was wondering if the Screaming Eagle I or Screaming Eagle II pipes would be the better choice? My bike sounds good now stock but I just want a little more of that Harley sound. I just want to say this site is awesome and I appreciate everyone helping this newbie get used to being a new Harley guy!!!
 
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Old May 26, 2005 | 02:25 AM
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Pig Iron,

Glad you are enjoying the forums, I really don't know much about the Sportys, but you might want to get the upgrade done before "06" because it's my understanding that due the the EPA regulations you won't be able to get this done at a dealer in "06".

As far as the upgrades you need I would post in the Sportster forum and I'm sure you will get the anwser you're looking for.

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Old May 26, 2005 | 03:22 AM
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The Stage 1 includes (if you want) pipes, air cleaner upgrade and rejetting (carbs) or download (efi). You should have all of this done at the same time for best performance. I'm not sure about the cost (depends on what type of pipes) but $600.00 sounds about right. I would go with the SEII slip ons.


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Old May 31, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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New jet is a few bucks, aftermarket mufflers in the low 100s, air cleaner is what, 135? Put on the a/c and the mufflers yourself and find a friend who knows carbs if you don't want to put in the jet yourself, some beer for your friend, and VOILA!!!!!!!!! $300 max
 
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Old May 31, 2005 | 08:21 PM
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Howdy Pig Iron, you have been given some good advice. If you are able to do it on your own, you can save some money. If you want the dealer to do it, you might think about it this year, because the EPA is closing in on our fun.
 
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Old May 31, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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It is my understanding that you still can get a dealer to do in on '05 models it is just that starting with the '06 models the dealer won't be able to do it. Now wether or not you can buy the parts and install them your self on '06 models is up to you and what your chances are of getting stopped. It is awfully hard to spot an '06 unless the officer in question knows the difference in the colour combinations between them and the '05s.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 12:17 AM
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Does anyone have any documentation on these new EPA rules? I keep hearing about it. And I'll just keep my furious comments to myself for now.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 12:58 AM
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Do a search, I think Skip found something in a magazine a while back.

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