Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel Injection Need advice on ignition issues? Questions about a tuner? Have questions about a EFI calibration or Fuel Injection? Tips on Engine Diagnostics, how to get codes, and what they mean. Find your answers here.

Backfire Galore

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 13, 2005 | 01:39 AM
  #1  
Toytech's Avatar
Toytech
Thread Starter
|
Tourer
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 346
Likes: 0
From:
Default Backfire Galore

I just finished installing SuperTrapp slipons on the family ElectraGlide. The bike has the air cleaner and stage one software. The bike used to burbble on decel but now it burbbles and bangs. I did check for air leaks and my install quality. All good. I found a small thread on the throttle position sensor being out of adjustment. So how do I check and perform the adjustment? Can I do this with a DVOM? Where do I find the values?


As an added fly in the ointment...as the bike gets higher in altitude, above 3500 ele. the burbble and bang goes away!

Joe


 
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2005 | 02:36 AM
  #2  
fxdxsteve's Avatar
fxdxsteve
Banned
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 941
Likes: 0
From: San Leandro,ca
Default RE: Backfire Galore

its running too lean. if you go up in altitude and it gets better its because it runs richer at altitude
 
Reply
Old Sep 14, 2005 | 05:26 PM
  #3  
HDF Tech's Avatar
HDF Tech
Banned
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 14,496
Likes: 156
From:
Default RE: Backfire Galore

Using a dvom,the TPS signal wire should be the one furthest to the right on the sensor, it probably is grey purple or something like that (CRS), easy to find out one of the others is going to be ECM/chassis ground and the other 5V feed. You measure between the signal wire and chassis ground, preferrably at the battery negative.Voltage specs are as follows. .41 for 01-03 and .52 for 04's in the idle position. The Problem is, is that you must also reset the IAC (intake air control) motor now that you have adjusted it. It can only be reset with a Scanalyzer or DT by the dealer.[:@]

I used a couple of paper clips to insert into the back of the plug to hook the test leads to.

You could also richen up things with the use of a tfi or dfo over the upgraded download to eliminate the popping.
 
Reply
Old Sep 15, 2005 | 12:59 AM
  #4  
Toytech's Avatar
Toytech
Thread Starter
|
Tourer
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 346
Likes: 0
From:
Default RE: Backfire Galore

TC,
Amazing how much stuff you know. You scare me. You might be dangerous if let loose in the wild. I back-probed the connector and got the readings as you outlined. So the TPS is set correctly. I do understand the system went a little leaner with the SuperTrapps But I wanted to eliminate other sources first. You mentioned the TFI and DFO units but I did not read mention of a Power Commander. Is there a point to that? The DFO is a very small and simple devise to increase the % of duty cycle to the injectors by piggy backing the ecu. That would do the job but I would like to hear your take on the PC.
I may use a "back door method" to slightly enrichen the fuel mix. The evap system is a large intentional vacuum leak. I may reduce, not eliminate, the size of the leak by inserting a restrictor at the manifold end. This works great on Ducati's.

Thanks for your input,
Joe
 
Reply
Old Sep 15, 2005 | 01:28 AM
  #5  
HDF Tech's Avatar
HDF Tech
Banned
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 14,496
Likes: 156
From:
Default RE: Backfire Galore

Joe

Don't turn me loose in the wild, the animals would be frightened

The reason I don't bring up the PC is that some people do not understand them and find them confusing and could possible damage things with them.

The DFO/TFI will enrichen fuel only by widening the pulse widths of the injectors and can't do the damage the PC is capable of. If your intentions are not to build a fire breathing monster, then the tfi/dfo is easier to work with and does a good job of enriching things in an adjustable manner without the need for a computer to program the PC. There's where the line is drawn IMO.

Glad you found the TPS to be in order, now you just have to work on the mixture

 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Snakeoil
The Dyno Room
5
Sep 12, 2016 08:02 AM
Renoir1
Dyna Glide Models
7
Sep 7, 2016 08:48 PM
VTL nut
EVO
8
Apr 29, 2013 03:12 PM
HBomb74
Dyna Glide Models
11
Feb 25, 2013 07:30 PM
flyer91
Touring Models
3
Aug 12, 2010 11:08 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:32 PM.

story-0
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-5
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-6
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE