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Old Oct 14, 2019 | 11:37 PM
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hey all just wondering if there is a option to do graph smoothing in the software when i switch to graph mode i have some ruff areas i like to smooth out? am i missing it or its not possible in this software? thanx
 
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 05:16 AM
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Could it be display size? The more data is squeezed, the rougher a graph will look. I know this is an over simplified answer, but it is also from experience in dealing with the graphs from data recorders.
 
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Not sure on that . I had holley sniper efi and you could smooth out the graph in the tuning software and just like to know if it can be done in this software
 
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Are you looking at the VE table graph? No, the software doesn't provide any way to auto smooth- if you want to, you can edit the VE table to look pretty, but that doesn't make the tune any better, and most likely worse.
 
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Are you looking at the VE table graph? No, the software doesn't provide any way to auto smooth- if you want to, you can edit the VE table to look pretty, but that doesn't make the tune any better, and most likely worse.
i not trying to make it look pretty but i have been told in the past when i was tuning my holley efi is to have a smooth transition not all jagged if that makes sense
 
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The greater number of rpm points you tune to the smoother the graph will look, but that is very labor intensive and not really necessary for everyday riding.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2019 | 05:59 PM
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The areas where you gather the data for the VE tables should be accurate if you do it right, with some other systems you can use EGR adjustments to help get things better in this area to a degree, however the SE software doesn't have EGR tables so that's out.
When generating your new VE numbers you have the option to hit interpolate to adjust cells in the middle of good data to bring them more into line with those around them but that's the extent of smoothing with the SE software and as others already pointed out forcing cells can lead to a worse running bike, the bike wants what it wants.
I tune on the road so there are areas of the VE I can't get to without risking my neck and licence past an acceptable limit.
What I do do though is look around the edges of the data cells I have gained good data in and following the data trends manually bring them into line with last good hits and extend them out, my reasoning is that the ECM is using these tables by interpolation so it should help.
Happy to be corrected but that's a part of my diy tuning strategy that seems to work and it came to be from reading what knowledgeable people have shared on this and many other bike forums.
 
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thanx hilly i had to read your reply a few times to see what you meant about populate as i missed first time
 
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thanx hilly i had to read your reply a few times to see what you meant about populate as i missed first time
You are most welcome Mr Ultra, washing the data through MyTune can also be a worthwhile practice, don't know if you have heard of it or not but it is another good tool for the home tuner, can adjust spark as well as VE.

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You are most welcome Mr Ultra, washing the data through MyTune can also be a worthwhile practice, don't know if you have heard of it or not but it is another good tool for the home tuner, can adjust spark as well as VE.

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yes I have been playing with mytune and have been looking at what it changes and i just tweaked a few of the ones it has changed
 
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