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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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Easy Wags.....because the good Doc can't see me until July 31st and I'd go nuts having the sled sit in the garage with my new pipes and sucker and not be able to ride it. More money than sense.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 03:46 PM
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I just had a D&D Fatcat 2-into-1 exhaust, SERT and Arlen Ness Big Sucker installed on my 06 Dyna Street Bob. They did an hour dyno tune and here's my results.

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They said they thought their machine was off by 5. Like gjerb, I didn't really know what to look for in all this. I didn't get a pre-tuned chart, just the one printout. It's my first time dealing with this shop and with the dyno tuning so I don't know if these results are any good. I also don't know what calibration they used with the SERT. Can one of you kind experts critique my dyno and let me know if I need to go back and talk to the shop to retune? Thanks!

 
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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Sorry, can't make out the attachment. But what you can tell from your printout is the A/F reading at all rpm. Should be around 3.7 Next, if you don't have a baseline hp and tq I would suggest comparing your results against the factory specs available from HD. Also, see how it runs.....no bogging down on acceleration, no backfire on decel etc. Hope this helps.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 05:08 PM
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Sorry about the image being so light - the printout was light to begin with. Went back and photoshopped the numbers in so you can read it without squinting.

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Here are the figures at the bottom:

Eng Torgue T WC (ft-lb blue Min 52 Max 66 Avg 60
Eng Power T WC (Hp) red Min 29 Max 61 Average 51
AFR 2 (ratio) green Min 11.1 Max 12.9 Avg 11.7

Summary sheet says:
Max Power 61.3 hp @ 5546 rpm/98.9mph
with WCF 61.8
Max Torque 66.5 @ 3008 rpm/53.2mph
with WCF 66.9

I haven't ridden more than 10 miles on it, but so far it seems fine. Handles as it did before only much louder now. I'm googling everywhere but can't seem to find any factory dyno charts. The 06s aren't on the HD site anymore.

 
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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Doc"s gonna be busy, I will see him Aug 1, for SERT install, V&H Headers, 2" Rush, Andrews 26 cams and a Dyno tune, I'm thinkin' I will be a happy camper afterwards.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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Slayer your tuner didn't use a Dyno Jet....I can't recognize the softare at all that made your print out. I have to wonder if the dyno have a eddie brake on it which is required to do a EFI tune. One other thing....it takes me 4 to 5 hours to do a SERT tune, it's not that I'm slow, it's because I check all throttle positions not just 100% throttle positionwhich most shops do.

Seaquester5....what do you meanDOC is going to be busy.....I think BILL is going to be busy.....lol
 
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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According to the printout it's a Mustang Dynamometer Test Report. Also lists a website for the company www.mustangdyne.com.

When I brought it in they said they usually take 1-2 hours to do the Dyno tune, but they'd only charge me an hour. Do you think they did a half-*** job? Now what do I do??
 
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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I just had a D&D Fatcat 2-into-1 exhaust, SERT and Arlen Ness Big Sucker installed on my 06 Dyna Street Bob. They did an hour dyno tune and here's my results.
Hope they didn't charge you too much...one hour is not a dyno tune. I doubt that they did much beyond what you could have done yourself with some tweaking of the tables and a couple of seat of the pants test runs. An actual dyno tune takes 3-5 hours.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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Easy Wags.....because the good Doc can't see me until July 31st and I'd go nuts having the sled sit in the garage with my new pipes and sucker and not be able to ride it. More money than sense.
Didn't mean anything by it...what you do want to avoid though is having them do a complete 3-5 hour dyno tune, and having to pay for it. A quickie tune to make sure you aren't running too lean till you get to Doc is all you need from the dealer. Not to offend dealers here but that is honestly the mostsome of them are capable of anyway....
 
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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According to the printout it's a Mustang Dynamometer Test Report. Also lists a website for the company www.mustangdyne.com.

When I brought it in they said they usually take 1-2 hours to do the Dyno tune, but they'd only charge me an hour. Do you think they did a half-*** job? Now what do I do??
Most Mustang Dynamometers are eddie current style,very popular in the automotive chassis dyno business. I would guess that there are more eddie current Mustangbrand chassis dynos used there then any other brand. DynoJets usually read 10-15% higherHP/TQ numbers then the many other brands of dynos in the automotivedyno arena,I'm sure it's true in the motorcycle dyno arena also, it's better for business to read higher.

Tuners are not abligated to provide theircustom tuning file unless agreed to in advance, thensome maydecideif they will expose certain tuningtechniques to the public and their competition. There is a big descrepency in tuning skills from tuner to tuner because tuning is more of an art then a science and here again, likein the automotive tuning field,some of the best tuners consider their file a "trade secret" and proprietary. As the motorcyle tuning profession matures, we will probably see more of this by top tuners. These tuners are usuallyso busy with a long backlogthat they do not concern themselves with the few who will not go to them for a tune if they can't have a copy of the tuning file.
 
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