FP3 vs Dyno
I own a FP3 and do not plan on getting a dyno tune. I'm happy.
If you do not own a tuner yet - get a Power Vision from someone like Fuel Moto with one of their maps. Then at some later date you can get it dyno tuned using your PV.
Just about no one who tunes with a dyno will accept a FP3 so if you go with a dyno you will still need to buy a tuner like PV or TTS.
If you do not own a tuner yet - get a Power Vision from someone like Fuel Moto with one of their maps. Then at some later date you can get it dyno tuned using your PV.
Just about no one who tunes with a dyno will accept a FP3 so if you go with a dyno you will still need to buy a tuner like PV or TTS.
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Some dyno-tuners will write over the factory ECM, some prefer to use a Power Vision, etc...
... This valuable service allows you to save money by not having to buy a replacement ECU
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Ok. All I can say is wow. Some here really have no clue what's what. Anyone tuning with a dyno and writing to the STOCK ecm is using a flash tuner of some sort.
Last edited by 60Gunner; Jun 16, 2020 at 08:57 PM.
Yes it did. Heat wise and ride-ability. Smoothness and no ticking.
I have had all the work done on previous bikes including a 113 kit, and spend a lot of money on tunes (well, one tune each on four bikes) and had to buy the flash tuners to go with it. Things broke due to the increased power that probably wouldn't have broke with closet-to-stock- power.
This 103 Ultra with Pro-Pipe and Ness Big Sucker and a FP3 that I autotuned on Three Sisters in Texas runs really nice, quiet, manageable heat, good gas mileage and throttle response.
Can it make more TQ and HP? Probably. Can it run Better, debatable.
I admit that if I had to do it over again I might have gotten a Power Vision for just a little more money and still be able to auto tune it. But that FP3 is pretty easy, well supported, and reliable at least for me.
I spent $13,000 to go fast --bought a BMW R1200RT - now that's a fast touring bike.
I have had all the work done on previous bikes including a 113 kit, and spend a lot of money on tunes (well, one tune each on four bikes) and had to buy the flash tuners to go with it. Things broke due to the increased power that probably wouldn't have broke with closet-to-stock- power.
This 103 Ultra with Pro-Pipe and Ness Big Sucker and a FP3 that I autotuned on Three Sisters in Texas runs really nice, quiet, manageable heat, good gas mileage and throttle response.
Can it make more TQ and HP? Probably. Can it run Better, debatable.
I admit that if I had to do it over again I might have gotten a Power Vision for just a little more money and still be able to auto tune it. But that FP3 is pretty easy, well supported, and reliable at least for me.
I spent $13,000 to go fast --bought a BMW R1200RT - now that's a fast touring bike.
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So I saw a whole load of stuff but now I can't see it. Who ever wrote it decided to remove it and for the better.
If a newbie to tuners had seen this, "The FP3 is not a tuner. It connects to the STOCK ECM and stays connected(piggybacked)fooling the ecm into thinking it needs more fuel. It doesn't tune anything or write to the ecm. It's a one size fits all AFR trickery AFR." they may well have been put off. The author might of realised their mistake prompting its deletion.
Just in case anyone saw it and are not sure the FP3 flashes the map to the ecm and can then be removed from the bike. All of the tables when using the CAN bus version can be edited to create a specific map for your bike. What has to be acknowledged with the unit purchased by the DIYer is it lacks a PC interface for ease of map editing and downloading.
If a newbie to tuners had seen this, "The FP3 is not a tuner. It connects to the STOCK ECM and stays connected(piggybacked)fooling the ecm into thinking it needs more fuel. It doesn't tune anything or write to the ecm. It's a one size fits all AFR trickery AFR." they may well have been put off. The author might of realised their mistake prompting its deletion.
Just in case anyone saw it and are not sure the FP3 flashes the map to the ecm and can then be removed from the bike. All of the tables when using the CAN bus version can be edited to create a specific map for your bike. What has to be acknowledged with the unit purchased by the DIYer is it lacks a PC interface for ease of map editing and downloading.
Thanks for all the input . From the research I've been doing it seems
like the FP3 will do a decent job . I won't be doing any internal engine
mods . I'll just be sticking with the full exhaust system I have & the Big
Sucker air cleaner .
like the FP3 will do a decent job . I won't be doing any internal engine
mods . I'll just be sticking with the full exhaust system I have & the Big
Sucker air cleaner .
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You can get a far better tuner in the Power Vision than the FP3 from Fuelmoto. They are the same price, no brainer as to which is better.
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What the Power Vision definitely has going for it is dependent on where you are in your HD riding adventure.
At present the FP3 is a single bike use and will require a new one per bike. The PV is a licensed use product so for your next bike(s) you can get a license saving on the cost of the hardware.
I have another idea but it might violate T&C of PV.
At present the FP3 is a single bike use and will require a new one per bike. The PV is a licensed use product so for your next bike(s) you can get a license saving on the cost of the hardware.
I have another idea but it might violate T&C of PV.
What the Power Vision definitely has going for it is dependent on where you are in your HD riding adventure.
At present the FP3 is a single bike use and will require a new one per bike. The PV is a licensed use product so for your next bike(s) you can get a license saving on the cost of the hardware.
I have another idea but it might violate T&C of PV.
At present the FP3 is a single bike use and will require a new one per bike. The PV is a licensed use product so for your next bike(s) you can get a license saving on the cost of the hardware.
I have another idea but it might violate T&C of PV.
I bought an FP3 knowing it's a one bike controller .
I don't see myself buying a new bike , unless maybe
a trike later . Who knows .
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