When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.
Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel InjectionNeed advice on ignition issues? Questions about a tuner? Have questions about a EFI calibration or Fuel Injection? Tips on Engine Diagnostics, how to get codes, and what they mean. Find your answers here.
Details and pertinent info. 2013 flstc 103 with s&s 570s, Rush slip ons, Outlaw 587 AC, SE Pro Super Tuner. It was dyno tuned after the cams tho I've since tweaked it.
I just pulled the heads, cleaned 95% of the carbon off the pistons from the previous owner running it 29,000 miles with the stock crankcase venting into the intake, and reinstalled everything using .030 head gaskets to tighten the squish. Fired it up and I get the P0051 code. Doesn't seem to want to clear either. Did my 02 sensor take a dump? Am I running lean now because of the tighten squish and bump in compression? I'm running open loop with no cells leaner than 13.5 in the AFR table. I think that covers it. Thoughts?
The fact it won't clear tells me it shorted?
Last edited by 60Gunner; Oct 11, 2020 at 01:12 PM.
1st question.....how are you running open loop 13.5 afr,s? 2nd, did you check continuity from o2 connector to ECM? 3rd, check ohms value for front and rear o2 sensors and compare readings. lastly try swapping O2 sensors front to back and see if fault code follows. You had to disturb physical connection from O2 sensor to ECM connection when you removed exhaust.... Check electrical connector from O2 sensor for corrosion, clean as necessary.... hope this helps
1st question.....how are you running open loop 13.5 afr,s? 2nd, did you check continuity from o2 connector to ECM? 3rd, check ohms value for front and rear o2 sensors and compare readings. lastly try swapping O2 sensors front to back and see if fault code follows. You had to disturb physical connection from O2 sensor to ECM connection when you removed exhaust.... Check electrical connector from O2 sensor for corrosion, clean as necessary.... hope this helps
A late thanks for the good suggestions. I just saw this. Checked, cleaned, rechecked connections. I'm almost positive I broke a wire inside the insulation when I had to partially drop the exhaust again and replace a gasket that half fell out and got crushed. It was hanging by the wires when it fell off it's perch.
I'm running 13.5 AFRs because that's what my target is and my VEs are/were dialed in to within 1%.
Running open loop you don't know what the VE's and AFR is, you need closed loop. You know what they are set to be and what they may have been but not what they are now.
I know they were spot on before doing the .030 gasket. That will change the VEs a little but not much. Probably not enough to really change the AFR much even. It takes like 1 0% to equal 1 AFR point. But I'll put a small closed loop area back in just to get the VE tables dialed in again, then it's right back to open loop. I have no use for NB closed loop.
That's why I hate to buy a new sensor but oh well.
Last edited by 60Gunner; Nov 12, 2020 at 08:51 PM.
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles
Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.
Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?
Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II
Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.
Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.