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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 12:09 PM
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Hello all,

I know this topic has been discussed many times, but I can't seem to find the answers to my questions. I have a 2001 Road King Police with the MM fuel injection. It has 43,000 miles and to date it has been working fine. I need to inspect the cam and tensioner as it hasn't been done yet. Thinking of going with the S&S 509 for more low end grunt and putting a 2 into 1 pipe on it. Will it need a tune after or will the MM system handle the change? I hate the thought of having to spend $1000.00 on something like a Thundermax. At that point I may as well do the carb conversion. Also any suggestions on a good 2 into 1 exhaust for a basically stock 88".

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Old Feb 4, 2023 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishy007
Hello all,

I know this topic has been discussed many times, but I can't seem to find the answers to my questions. I have a 2001 Road King Police with the MM fuel injection. It has 43,000 miles and to date it has been working fine. I need to inspect the cam and tensioner as it hasn't been done yet. Thinking of going with the S&S 509 for more low end grunt and putting a 2 into 1 pipe on it. Will it need a tune after or will the MM system handle the change? I hate the thought of having to spend $1000.00 on something like a Thundermax. At that point I may as well do the carb conversion. Also any suggestions on a good 2 into 1 exhaust for a basically stock 88".

Any advice would be appreciated.
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Yes, you'll need to tune it to get the most out of your changes. Do your research, there's lots of tuners out there. As for the 2 into 1 exhaust, same. There's lots out there. Personally I'm running V&H Pro Pipe on mine and am very happy with it.
 
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If you are looking for a great running street bike the 509 and a SuperTrapp 2into1 allows for altering the noise level to meet your desires.
If you are looking for the most power and noise the 509 with a D&D Fatcat or Bassani Roadrage will work good for power.
Regardless, a Power Commander and a proper dyno tune will be necessary to get it right.
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What tuner (product) can still tune a MM system?


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What tuner (product) can still tune a MM system?


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That is something I would look into before finalizing a plan. Direct Link is what I prefer, but as of Jan 1st. They aren't selling any more licensing. Not saying shops don't have some in stock, but there is no more being made for the states. Power commander is another way, but I don't know if they are even made for MM any more?? S&S had a decent replacement ECM, but that is no more as well. There are stand alone ECU's but that's at least a $3500 option.

Good news. A CV will run that bike just fine.
 
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The best way to make the decision to go carb or stick with the MM system is to decide if you want a guaranteed 1 time cost to convert to carb or to try to find a tuner who really understands the MM system and use a Power Commander (only tuner available) to get the bike to run well.
The downside to sticking with the MM is when and if something goes wrong (dead or bad sensor, or the ECM ***** the bed) it will be exceedingly more difficult to find someone that understands the MM system that will actually spend the time to work with the MM system.
That said I’m referring to modified engines NOT stock-cammed bikes with OEM headers. Those bikes seem easy to get right with minimal understanding.
Hoping this helps your decision making process,
Bob
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Strange... you don't look like a tuner.

As far as I know, there are only a few guys to still have MM parts and the knowledge to keep them running. Cole is one of them.

My .02, go carb if you are going to keep the bike for any period of time then enjoy it.


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