running with unknown SERT mapping
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ok....last question...
The bike already has the SERT on it. I know that connecting another SERT will let me see the map, but not any changes that may or may not have been made.
If I get a NEW SERT and connect it, will that automatically use the mapping that is currently on the bike, and give me the info of those parameters?
The way I'm seeing this, is I'll have the map that's on the bike now, and with the new SERT, i'll be able to pull that map up on the computer and compare the map with the possibly modified one on the bike. Tes? No?
I think she wants to go with the SERT because it's already there, and she want's the good stuff. It seems to me that the SERT is the good stuff and the piggyback controllers are the next best thing. She wants the best she can get for a midrange price. I'm thinking either BCT Thunder Monsters for her SE II pipes, or V&H slip-ons. She really likes the looks of her SE II, but we also want something "baffled", so we're thinking maybe just find another set of SE IIs or some baffles for these (stock SE II or BCT inserts).
The bike already has the SERT on it. I know that connecting another SERT will let me see the map, but not any changes that may or may not have been made.
If I get a NEW SERT and connect it, will that automatically use the mapping that is currently on the bike, and give me the info of those parameters?
The way I'm seeing this, is I'll have the map that's on the bike now, and with the new SERT, i'll be able to pull that map up on the computer and compare the map with the possibly modified one on the bike. Tes? No?
I think she wants to go with the SERT because it's already there, and she want's the good stuff. It seems to me that the SERT is the good stuff and the piggyback controllers are the next best thing. She wants the best she can get for a midrange price. I'm thinking either BCT Thunder Monsters for her SE II pipes, or V&H slip-ons. She really likes the looks of her SE II, but we also want something "baffled", so we're thinking maybe just find another set of SE IIs or some baffles for these (stock SE II or BCT inserts).
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RE: running with unknown SERT mapping
The SERT does not work like the PC. The best you will get with the new SERT is to pull which calibration file name that was used. The problem is that you will have no idea what was changed from the original calibration and loaded on your bike. The SERT is nothing more than a hardware access mechanism that allows the software to send data one way (other than the VIN and ECM filename)to the ECM.
Based on what I typed above is why I recommended a stock flash (if it was free) and a PC with a canned map. If cost is no issue, then the SERT is the way to go as it does not have any addon components and will essentially be tuned similarly as the PC when you get it tuned.
Bottom line is that there is no way to know exactly what was previously loaded into your ECM if it was anything other than a dealer flash.
Based on what I typed above is why I recommended a stock flash (if it was free) and a PC with a canned map. If cost is no issue, then the SERT is the way to go as it does not have any addon components and will essentially be tuned similarly as the PC when you get it tuned.
Bottom line is that there is no way to know exactly what was previously loaded into your ECM if it was anything other than a dealer flash.
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RE: running with unknown SERT mapping
Before you get too far ahead of yourself, make sure you don't have something simple like an intake leak, this could cause the problems you are experiencing, You would have no problem using another SERT over the first, kinda sucks though, like stated previously, you can retrieve the cal ID number from your ecm using any SERT key, downside is that it still does not tell you if it has been modified from original cal specs.
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You should go with the SERT. Tuning on top of an unknown calibration with a PCIIIwould yield problems IMO. Don`t compound your problems..[:@]
If you buy a SERT you can tune the bike all you want. Money well spent IMO.
Load a map that matches the bikes configuration and the Map that`s in it will be replaced with the SERT map you choose from the software on the SERT disc. That will give you a good base to tune from and you`ll be able to adjust for any future mods as well. Spend your money right the first time and you wont need to spend more on the same thinglater.
If you buy a SERT you can tune the bike all you want. Money well spent IMO.
Load a map that matches the bikes configuration and the Map that`s in it will be replaced with the SERT map you choose from the software on the SERT disc. That will give you a good base to tune from and you`ll be able to adjust for any future mods as well. Spend your money right the first time and you wont need to spend more on the same thinglater.
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ok....I doused the intake areas with WD-40, and found no obvious leak......I made a 2' puddle under the bike, so I think I used enough to determine if there was a leak.
Isn't SERT the one that has starting enrichment? or is that PC III. maybe they just set the starting fuel too low to begin with, aside from a poor tune.
Isn't SERT the one that has starting enrichment? or is that PC III. maybe they just set the starting fuel too low to begin with, aside from a poor tune.
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ok....I doused the intake areas with WD-40, and found no obvious leak......I made a 2' puddle under the bike, so I think I used enough to determine if there was a leak.
Isn't SERT the one that has starting enrichment? or is that PC III. maybe they just set the starting fuel too low to begin with, aside from a poor tune.
ok....I doused the intake areas with WD-40, and found no obvious leak......I made a 2' puddle under the bike, so I think I used enough to determine if there was a leak.
Isn't SERT the one that has starting enrichment? or is that PC III. maybe they just set the starting fuel too low to begin with, aside from a poor tune.
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