PC III compatability
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PC III compatability
I've got a 07 FLHTCUSE2 and I've got a buddy with a 08 PC III for touring. The 07 tables have a map close to my bike but the 08 doesn't. Does the PC III accept all maps that can be downloaded regardless of year produced or is there something propriatary for the bike year has to match the model year of the PC III?
It seems to me that it's just hardware that would work with all TC's if the appropriate map is used.
Am I thinking about this wrong or what?
It seems to me that it's just hardware that would work with all TC's if the appropriate map is used.
Am I thinking about this wrong or what?
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If I understand your question correctly - you are asking does the PC III care about year when downloading a map. The answer is no. You should be able to load up the map. Now, if there is a difference between the base map in the ECM between 07 and 08 your bike may not run the same as what the map was originally intended for. A PC map just adds or subtracts to the output from the ECM (which has its own map in it).
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There could be several different ECM calibrations for the same model bike in the same year. The 08 is a bit more on the lean side than the 07 if I recall. The best way to tell is to copy the factory ECM calibration and open it up to view (you need a special program to open that file) or you can get the factory calibration # using something like the TTS device and ask a Pro tuner to help decipher.
You can use a TTS device to read another ECM but you can't flash to a second ECM. You can even make data runs with a TTS that is married to another bike and view the recording files, again, you just can't flash. I believe you can do the same thing with the SEPro although I've never tried it.
I think the bottom line would be to install your PCIII with a close map and have it put on a dyno or at least a TS/wego to smooth it out.
You can use a TTS device to read another ECM but you can't flash to a second ECM. You can even make data runs with a TTS that is married to another bike and view the recording files, again, you just can't flash. I believe you can do the same thing with the SEPro although I've never tried it.
I think the bottom line would be to install your PCIII with a close map and have it put on a dyno or at least a TS/wego to smooth it out.
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I've got a 07 FLHTCUSE2 and I've got a buddy with a 08 PC III for touring. The 07 tables have a map close to my bike but the 08 doesn't. Does the PC III accept all maps that can be downloaded regardless of year produced or is there something propriatary for the bike year has to match the model year of the PC III?
It seems to me that it's just hardware that would work with all TC's if the appropriate map is used.
Am I thinking about this wrong or what?
It seems to me that it's just hardware that would work with all TC's if the appropriate map is used.
Am I thinking about this wrong or what?
On a side note; the PCIII is only compatible for bikes up to and including the year 08. After that you must upgrade to the PCV model for compatability. And then you can inject the new ECM that HD put on 2011 Softails and CVOs and you have a whole nother problem. I know the TTS is not compatible with those new ECMs but the updated TTS should be ready to release in early 2011 but I haven't read anything on the PCV models.
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There could be several different ECM calibrations for the same model bike in the same year. The 08 is a bit more on the lean side than the 07 if I recall. The best way to tell is to copy the factory ECM calibration and open it up to view (you need a special program to open that file) or you can get the factory calibration # using something like the TTS device and ask a Pro tuner to help decipher.
You can use a TTS device to read another ECM but you can't flash to a second ECM. You can even make data runs with a TTS that is married to another bike and view the recording files, again, you just can't flash. I believe you can do the same thing with the SEPro although I've never tried it.
I think the bottom line would be to install your PCIII with a close map and have it put on a dyno or at least a TS/wego to smooth it out.
You can use a TTS device to read another ECM but you can't flash to a second ECM. You can even make data runs with a TTS that is married to another bike and view the recording files, again, you just can't flash. I believe you can do the same thing with the SEPro although I've never tried it.
I think the bottom line would be to install your PCIII with a close map and have it put on a dyno or at least a TS/wego to smooth it out.
Mounting hardware is the only difference, the way I always understood it.
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i had just looked that up for a bud of mine who wanted to do the same thing as above. the PC site shows the PCIII compatible for 08 models but as you stated the connector is different so they must ship with different connectors and probably different logic...
The 07 part# is 812-511 and the 08 model is part# 818-511.. i didn't catch that earlier. :-)
Thanks Wiz....
The 07 part# is 812-511 and the 08 model is part# 818-511.. i didn't catch that earlier. :-)
Thanks Wiz....
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