HD Tuner
Don't know about how straight your parts guy is, some dealers won't even sell the HD tuners/downloaders. Short answer is HDs current product line has confused many into wasting plenty of $$$. Some are tuners, others are simply a way to download canned maps. Unless you get a deep discount, none are worth the cash. Lots of posts here on the subject.
What year is the bike?
If you like a very good DIY tune, don't mind some sweat equity, and don't want anything hanging off the bike, look at TTS tuning kit.
What year is the bike?
If you like a very good DIY tune, don't mind some sweat equity, and don't want anything hanging off the bike, look at TTS tuning kit.
I'm curious to know what experience you have with tuners other than TTS? most of the "bad advice" I see on these forums coming from people that have used 1 tuner and are all of the sudden "experts" on all of them. Have you ever used a SEPST? If so, what do you like better about the TTS?
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No you won't CC...
All tuners work. They simply work in different ways and to different degrees. Some stay on the bike, some replace the ECM and some hook up and come back off. Software is different, procedures are somewhat alike while others are totally from cyberspace with poor support.
Not all tuners will fit the individual and not all individuals will like to tune or can tune.
For those who choose to do a "Home Brew", they should come into this program with their eyes wide open and understand what the differences are which are not as broad as one may think.
For those who have no intention to Home Brew then they should speak with their local tuner and go with what their tuner is happy with and qualified to use. Just get a written warranty (how long, how many retunes and what if they can't tune it properly).
It is doubtful a newbie will even know if he has a proper tune unless the bike is sluggish or pops or even uses way too much fuel so TRUST your tuner guy. If not, find another.
Home Brew Newbie's should also understand the tuning process and benefits before buying. This is the problem... we all use different products, they work, they work for us and will work for most everyone else.
All tuners work. They simply work in different ways and to different degrees. Some stay on the bike, some replace the ECM and some hook up and come back off. Software is different, procedures are somewhat alike while others are totally from cyberspace with poor support.
Not all tuners will fit the individual and not all individuals will like to tune or can tune.
For those who choose to do a "Home Brew", they should come into this program with their eyes wide open and understand what the differences are which are not as broad as one may think.
For those who have no intention to Home Brew then they should speak with their local tuner and go with what their tuner is happy with and qualified to use. Just get a written warranty (how long, how many retunes and what if they can't tune it properly).
It is doubtful a newbie will even know if he has a proper tune unless the bike is sluggish or pops or even uses way too much fuel so TRUST your tuner guy. If not, find another.
Home Brew Newbie's should also understand the tuning process and benefits before buying. This is the problem... we all use different products, they work, they work for us and will work for most everyone else.
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A couple posters have been passing information around here for a few months now that have been shown to be incorrect, incomplete, misleading. They have been exposed for spinning the truth to perhaps make themselves look good on several occasions. Don't know their motivation... perhaps they just can't deal with realizing they made a mistake by believing everything they read in marketing pamphlets. Seems the typical response is an attack, I dunno about the character of these individual(s).
Is the TTS product really so awful that the only way to sell it is to lie about the competition?
Readers here may want to take advice here with a grain of salt, much is good, but as in any community, you may want to collaborate the info. Do a search here if you want and on other forums where some have been exposed several times as a fraud..... well I guess can't say anything nice, but everyone has a right to express an opinion... buyer beware here.
Or is this another of your fantasies?
The truth will set you free, you should try it sometime. You sound like Baghdad Bob when you talk about the HD tuners.
I've been using the Pro Super Tuner since 2008 when I went to a fuel injected bike. I've found nearly everything you post about it to be either fantasy or deliberate misinformation. You are as I said "So Full of Crap".
Last edited by jluvs2ride; Jan 18, 2011 at 08:51 AM.
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Gentlemen,
I'm putting on my Moderator Hat.
If you must joust then use the PM function. I don't know about you but I'm here to continue to read and learn. This doesn't teach anyone anything. We aren't here to bust each others ***** and start flame wars. Not here and not in my area.
thx
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I'm putting on my Moderator Hat.
If you must joust then use the PM function. I don't know about you but I'm here to continue to read and learn. This doesn't teach anyone anything. We aren't here to bust each others ***** and start flame wars. Not here and not in my area.
thx
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As mentioned above, go with the TTS (connects to the bike's ECM and leaves nothing attached when done)...you can tune it yourself or have it dyno'd.
Word of caution with the Pro Tuner...it has limited data recording ability (only 30 to 45 minutes). While that seems like plenty of time, many find it is not enough.
Good luck!
Word of caution with the Pro Tuner...it has limited data recording ability (only 30 to 45 minutes). While that seems like plenty of time, many find it is not enough.
Good luck!
My laptop has sensitive and valuable information on it. It is one thing to carry it into the garage and upload a calibration, another to strap it to the bike and expose it to vibration and the elements.
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You may want to look into (1) a more robust laptop (maybe a Toughbook) or (2) store such "sensitive and valuable" information on another drive or remote location. Believe or not, some computers actually crash and loose their data even without being exposed to the vibration and elements of MC data runs.
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You may want to look into (1) a more robust laptop (maybe a Toughbook) or (2) store such "sensitive and valuable" information on another drive or remote location. Believe or not, some computers actually crash and loose their data even without being exposed to the vibration and elements of MC data runs.
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You may want to look into (1) a more robust laptop (maybe a Toughbook) or (2) store such "sensitive and valuable" information on another drive or remote location. Believe or not, some computers actually crash and loose their data even without being exposed to the vibration and elements of MC data runs.
2. Been in nearly every aspect of the IT world for the last 25 years. Seen lots of PCs crash for one reason or another and you are correct that "some computers actually crash and loose their data even without being exposed to the vibration and elements of MC data runs." However in my case I have the data backed up, but don't want to expose my laptop to the additional stress.
I would consider this inconvienient as well.
For some the TTS may be the best solution. For others it may not be.
Last edited by jluvs2ride; Jan 18, 2011 at 01:28 PM.
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I was just looking at the 2011 HD catalog. The screaming eagle street performance tuner kit is PN-41000008 and does include the VCI module. This kit doesnot come with the cables. The cables are PN-32184-08. The price for the tuner kit is $329.95. The price for the tuner cable kit is $39.95. This cable kit doesnot fit the 2011 softail models. The cable kit for the softail models is PN-41000018 and is $39.95. This tuner will work on all models except trike and vrod. I had the dealer install my mods before I took delivery and dyno tune my bike. I have a 5 year extended warranty that is not voided. My bike is a vrod so I use the screaming eagle pro efi super tuner PN-32109-08B. The bike runs flawless.