Considering the 07's LEAN condition
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Considering the 07's LEAN condition
I have an 07 RKC Completely stock, even the MAP. It just bugs me that it's tuned so lean from the factory and what bugs me worse is it has stumbled a few times. I am due to recieve a set of Wild Pig slip ons any day and I'm going to install a K&N filter and maybe bore a hole in the back of the breather. Out side of the mufflers and filter I have no intentions to ever modify the engine any further.
Now the age old question. Without overkill what would be suitable to fatten the mixture up and get it running decent and cooler? DFO/TFI, FuelPak, PCIII, SERT, ?????
I'm not looking to shave 10ths of a second off an E.T. and I prefer to do it without dyno runs. I just want it to run better with no stumbling, popping, etc. I'm leaning towards a DFO. Any opinions?
Also I'd rather not leave any evidence behind to void any warranty. Meaning if any problems arise I'll swap the pipes back to stock and remove the mods. I already have a laptop but doesn't a SERT leave "digital" evidence in the ECM? What to use?
Thanks Gentlemen
Now the age old question. Without overkill what would be suitable to fatten the mixture up and get it running decent and cooler? DFO/TFI, FuelPak, PCIII, SERT, ?????
I'm not looking to shave 10ths of a second off an E.T. and I prefer to do it without dyno runs. I just want it to run better with no stumbling, popping, etc. I'm leaning towards a DFO. Any opinions?
Also I'd rather not leave any evidence behind to void any warranty. Meaning if any problems arise I'll swap the pipes back to stock and remove the mods. I already have a laptop but doesn't a SERT leave "digital" evidence in the ECM? What to use?
Thanks Gentlemen
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RE: Considering the 07's LEAN condition
I don't know what the PCIII costs cause I have a DFO(probably the cheapest) but it cured my popping,hicupping,farting etc. Simple to put on simple to take off and no evidence anything was there. Now I am going to have to fine tune mine a little more since I put Fullsac true dual pipe on. What a sound.
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RE: Considering the 07's LEAN condition
i have a 05 rk w/ecm with wild pigs and a se ac. i got the sert and tweaked the se canned map with a o2 sensor and the dayton 88+, worked very well for me. but, if you really don't want to play with it alot, or learn a new langauge, and you are looking for a cheap quick fix with no trace, the pciii or dfo or any other of a hundred add on ecm modifers will work fine. the sert would leave a trace if its been modified, but as been discussed on here before it is not "suppose" to void the warrenty(depending on dealer?), so it doesn't matter? and frankly, if the dealer told me it would void the warrenty, i would find a new dealer!
also, for the money, i would just get th se a/c, rather than drill holes in the breather? im sure that will leave evidence?
also, for the money, i would just get th se a/c, rather than drill holes in the breather? im sure that will leave evidence?
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RE: Considering the 07's LEAN condition
2007 have closed loop with adaptive fuel trims. If you install a dfo, PC etc, the o2's will still trim to factory air fuel. However, if you add just a little fuel across the entire range, it will bring the trims closer to center which will be a good thing. If you use an EFi tuner, you have the ability to actually change the target AF value in closed loop (way cool done in Bias Tables), as well as richen up your cold starts. The EFI Tuner is the superior product for 2007 at this time!
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RE: Considering the 07's LEAN condition
ORIGINAL: One_Screamin_Eagle
2007 have closed loop with adaptive fuel trims. If you install a dfo, PC etc, the o2's will still trim to factory air fuel. However, if you add just a little fuel across the entire range, it will bring the trims closer to center which will be a good thing. If you use an EFi tuner, you have the ability to actually change the target AF value in closed loop (way cool done in Bias Tables), as well as richen up your cold starts. The EFI Tuner is the superior product for 2007 at this time!
2007 have closed loop with adaptive fuel trims. If you install a dfo, PC etc, the o2's will still trim to factory air fuel. However, if you add just a little fuel across the entire range, it will bring the trims closer to center which will be a good thing. If you use an EFi tuner, you have the ability to actually change the target AF value in closed loop (way cool done in Bias Tables), as well as richen up your cold starts. The EFI Tuner is the superior product for 2007 at this time!
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RE: Considering the 07's LEAN condition
Didn't the PC-III for 2007 models, and the associated 2007 maps, just come out in the last week or 2? Has anyone tried the 2007 PC-III?
It looks like it eliminates the OEM O2 sensors
It looks like it eliminates the OEM O2 sensors
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RE: Considering the 07's LEAN condition
ORIGINAL: Chiledog
Didn't the PC-III for 2007 models, and the associated 2007 maps, just come out in the last week or 2? Has anyone tried the 2007 PC-III?
It looks like it eliminates the OEM O2 sensors
Didn't the PC-III for 2007 models, and the associated 2007 maps, just come out in the last week or 2? Has anyone tried the 2007 PC-III?
It looks like it eliminates the OEM O2 sensors
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RE: Considering the 07's LEAN condition
ORIGINAL: Chiledog
Didn't the PC-III for 2007 models, and the associated 2007 maps, just come out in the last week or 2? Has anyone tried the 2007 PC-III?
It looks like it eliminates the OEM O2 sensors
Didn't the PC-III for 2007 models, and the associated 2007 maps, just come out in the last week or 2? Has anyone tried the 2007 PC-III?
It looks like it eliminates the OEM O2 sensors