SERT MAP
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RE: SERT MAP
SHB, I do not have access to a laptop so I cannot upload SERT myself. I retired in January so I, unfortuately,no longer have the luxury of a company paid home office.
Also, I plan on the dealer toinstall the Ovals & breather/SERT during my 1600km/1000 service. I could do the breather & pipes myself but then run the risk of having to ride 20 miles to the dealerin a very lean condition which I won't do.
There is nobody in my area that I trust in "fine" tuning, meanin the dyno. One Indy was all gung ho but was pitchin' Direct Link which I also will not do. It seems most dealers around here have been puttingon PCIIIs with canned maps. IMO any dyno experience from any of them would be questionable. The dealer that I purchased my Ultra fromjust got a dyno installed so thatindicates their level of competence. I do not want to be a sacrificial lamb. Also, because they will "install" the SERT, they said they will stand behind any future warranty issues. It's the old.."if you got them by the *****,their hearts and minds will follow.."
I will have dealer upload map 78 and hopefully max out the o2 tablesand then I will ride 5 hours and havethe dynoand fine tuning done at Latus HD near Portland. They have a good reputation.
That's my plan.
Very much appreciate your guidance.
Also, I plan on the dealer toinstall the Ovals & breather/SERT during my 1600km/1000 service. I could do the breather & pipes myself but then run the risk of having to ride 20 miles to the dealerin a very lean condition which I won't do.
There is nobody in my area that I trust in "fine" tuning, meanin the dyno. One Indy was all gung ho but was pitchin' Direct Link which I also will not do. It seems most dealers around here have been puttingon PCIIIs with canned maps. IMO any dyno experience from any of them would be questionable. The dealer that I purchased my Ultra fromjust got a dyno installed so thatindicates their level of competence. I do not want to be a sacrificial lamb. Also, because they will "install" the SERT, they said they will stand behind any future warranty issues. It's the old.."if you got them by the *****,their hearts and minds will follow.."
I will have dealer upload map 78 and hopefully max out the o2 tablesand then I will ride 5 hours and havethe dynoand fine tuning done at Latus HD near Portland. They have a good reputation.
That's my plan.
Very much appreciate your guidance.
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RE: SERT MAP
Hi Bob, I sent you a reply on your comments.
Can youtell me the reason why we are maxing out the O2 sensors with the base map?
Thanks Bob.
I've got 260 break-in miles on the bike (2007 Ultra)in two days but we are back in the rain again. Bike is running great as stock. If I try real hard I can hear the difference with 5th gear.
6th gear is fine although the indicator lighttakes about a second or so to come on. I am being meticulous on the break-in.
Can youtell me the reason why we are maxing out the O2 sensors with the base map?
Thanks Bob.
I've got 260 break-in miles on the bike (2007 Ultra)in two days but we are back in the rain again. Bike is running great as stock. If I try real hard I can hear the difference with 5th gear.
6th gear is fine although the indicator lighttakes about a second or so to come on. I am being meticulous on the break-in.
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6th gear is fine although the indicator lighttakes about a second or so to come on.
6th gear is fine although the indicator lighttakes about a second or so to come on.
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ORIGINAL: johnny canuck
Hi Bob, I sent you a reply on your comments.
Can youtell me the reason why we are maxing out the O2 sensors with the base map?
Thanks Bob.
I've got 260 break-in miles on the bike (2007 Ultra)in two days but we are back in the rain again. Bike is running great as stock. If I try real hard I can hear the difference with 5th gear.
6th gear is fine although the indicator lighttakes about a second or so to come on. I am being meticulous on the break-in.
Hi Bob, I sent you a reply on your comments.
Can youtell me the reason why we are maxing out the O2 sensors with the base map?
Thanks Bob.
I've got 260 break-in miles on the bike (2007 Ultra)in two days but we are back in the rain again. Bike is running great as stock. If I try real hard I can hear the difference with 5th gear.
6th gear is fine although the indicator lighttakes about a second or so to come on. I am being meticulous on the break-in.
You are establishing a NEW Stochiometric value, and creating a richer (14.1) vice stock (14.6) which switches at approximately 550 mVDC....
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I agree with SHB that whomever you are talking to does not understand SERT. So, I must assume they do not understand Direct Link either. DL is a fine product and it has the advantage of real time cell tracing (which SERT could and should have). The canned maps are in the ballpark but be aware they are in the nose bleed section of said ballpark. Maxing out the CLB to 798 is a good idea as this pushes the AFR's down in the closed loop area as SHB has pointed out. Any SERT tuner worth his salt KNOWS this. Should you decide to use PC IIIUSB at least make sure they build an advanced map (tune each cylinder separatley). PC will do a good job but SERT or DL have definite advantages.DL's keys are cheaper than SERT so if you are not planning on a do it yourself install and have a qualifiedPro tune your bike there is no good reason to be afraid of it. Qualified Pro being the operative here. SHB gives a lot of good advise on this board and helps a lot of people. The only real disagreement I have with his comments is that HDU is the only place quality training is available. I'vehad training there and @ two otherplaces. Both of which I found more valuable than the "pressure cooker" HDU has turned into in the last few years. I feel HDU's trainingleaves a lot to be desired particularly since the guy now in charge took over. (Don't feel it appropriate to name the guy here).Bottom line is, ask questions and get comfortable with someone in your area. This may not be rocket science but very few"tuners" even in theDealer network, have a thorough understanding of how the system works and how the different tuning products work. Good luck!!
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The only real disagreement I have with his comments is that HDU is the only place quality training is available. I'vehad training there and @ two otherplaces. Both of which I found more valuable than the "pressure cooker" HDU has turned into in the last few years.
Yes, HDU has changed a bit... Dealers complained that it was too long, so it was shortened up 1 day, but they still needed to get in a requisite amount of training, so now the TIME CONSTRAINTS are the real killer, especially in Air Cooled and VRod...
The only "Relaxed" course that I have been in was SERT, but it is not a PHD Required course....
All in all, the training is only as good as the time and materials permit and the instructor presents...
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