Pro Super Tuner for MAC
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Pro Super Tuner for MAC
Does anyone know of a "Pro Super Tuner" download for the MAC Laptop Computer. I don't understand why there is not a factory download for MAC when these tuners have been out for a number of years.
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There is no such thing als a Software version of SESTP for OSX
What you can do:
Get yourself either a VM-Ware or a Parallels License and install Windows7 on it - then you can run SESTP without any problems on a mac laptop.
Regards, D
What you can do:
Get yourself either a VM-Ware or a Parallels License and install Windows7 on it - then you can run SESTP without any problems on a mac laptop.
Regards, D
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I have the same problem. I run a Mac notebook. Solutions:
- If you have a PC laptop at work, use that for the Super Tuner software
or
- Buy a cheap Windows laptop (like an Asus) to run your few but maybe important Windows software programs. It's a lot easier, and maybe ultimately not much more costly, than using VMware or Parallels, since both require their own software license PLUS a lot of memory to work decently. Also, some programs are not compatible with VMware or Parallels. You need to check FIRST if a specific program is, and many, especially the non-common ones like Super Tuner, are not (Super Tuner may be common to US biker's, but not to normal people
)
I use the laptop from my job to run the Super Tuner software.
Jim G
- If you have a PC laptop at work, use that for the Super Tuner software
or
- Buy a cheap Windows laptop (like an Asus) to run your few but maybe important Windows software programs. It's a lot easier, and maybe ultimately not much more costly, than using VMware or Parallels, since both require their own software license PLUS a lot of memory to work decently. Also, some programs are not compatible with VMware or Parallels. You need to check FIRST if a specific program is, and many, especially the non-common ones like Super Tuner, are not (Super Tuner may be common to US biker's, but not to normal people
)I use the laptop from my job to run the Super Tuner software.
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I am sure a Mac is a nice, but when 99.44% of all the whole world talks to their machines in Windows.........? And by machines... I mean EVERYTHING with a brain inside. Manufacturing, especially.
It's not about how long a tuner has been out, its all about how no one on earth uses Mac to talk to a machine, of which your bike is a machine, BTW. All kinds of machine languages use Windows modules to 'talk'. No one, especially a consumer product, is going to try to build the same modules their selves and have some kind of buggy experience for the end consumer.
Just how life is, and will not change.
It's not about how long a tuner has been out, its all about how no one on earth uses Mac to talk to a machine, of which your bike is a machine, BTW. All kinds of machine languages use Windows modules to 'talk'. No one, especially a consumer product, is going to try to build the same modules their selves and have some kind of buggy experience for the end consumer.
Just how life is, and will not change.
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I am sure a Mac is a nice, but when 99.44% of all the whole world talks to their machines in Windows.........? And by machines... I mean EVERYTHING with a brain inside. Manufacturing, especially.
It's not about how long a tuner has been out, its all about how no one on earth uses Mac to talk to a machine, of which your bike is a machine, BTW. All kinds of machine languages use Windows modules to 'talk'. No one, especially a consumer product, is going to try to build the same modules their selves and have some kind of buggy experience for the end consumer.
Just how life is, and will not change.
It's not about how long a tuner has been out, its all about how no one on earth uses Mac to talk to a machine, of which your bike is a machine, BTW. All kinds of machine languages use Windows modules to 'talk'. No one, especially a consumer product, is going to try to build the same modules their selves and have some kind of buggy experience for the end consumer.
Just how life is, and will not change.
Jim G
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Wish there was a mac version as well. Oh well, just keep using the piece of crap dell I bought last summer for my Power Vision (for sale btw).
At least the cables are USB now. When I started doing car tuning with a Powrtuner and then HP tuners, I still had to have a USB converter or Serial connection or whatever it's called, I forget.
At least the cables are USB now. When I started doing car tuning with a Powrtuner and then HP tuners, I still had to have a USB converter or Serial connection or whatever it's called, I forget.
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Yes, it can still be used to clear codes and display data from a different ECM, but no one is going to pay much for that. People buy a PV to make changes.
Jim G
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The Power Vision is not re-saleable. Once used to load a tune onto any specific individual ECM, it is permanently married to that ECM.
Yes, it can still be used to clear codes and display data from a different ECM, but no one is going to pay much for that. People buy a PV to make changes.
Jim G
Yes, it can still be used to clear codes and display data from a different ECM, but no one is going to pay much for that. People buy a PV to make changes.
Jim G
so going rate for a used PV1 or PV2 (only difference is the cable) is about $150 then another $200 for a license file. $350 total and you're good as new.
TTS can also be re-used by sending the device to TTS for a fee to unlock it. Because mt7 and mt8 files lock the ECM, it's not wise (or very cordial) to do this to the buyer of your bike
SE devices, you cannot do this with. once married they go with the bike or become a paperweight.
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they are re-sellable. Once married, a PV can be unlocked by purchasing a $200 license file from DynoJet or FuelMoto and it's like new again. You can have multiple licenses for PV.
so going rate for a used PV1 or PV2 (only difference is the cable) is about $150 then another $200 for a license file. $350 total and you're good as new.
TTS can also be re-used by sending the device to TTS for a fee to unlock it. Because mt7 and mt8 files lock the ECM, it's not wise (or very cordial) to do this to the buyer of your bike
SE devices, you cannot do this with. once married they go with the bike or become a paperweight.
so going rate for a used PV1 or PV2 (only difference is the cable) is about $150 then another $200 for a license file. $350 total and you're good as new.
TTS can also be re-used by sending the device to TTS for a fee to unlock it. Because mt7 and mt8 files lock the ECM, it's not wise (or very cordial) to do this to the buyer of your bike
SE devices, you cannot do this with. once married they go with the bike or become a paperweight.
So the ONLY difference between a PV-1 and PV-2 is the cable? No internal field differences at all?
You also mention the TTS and note that "mt7 and mt8 files lock the ECM" (as opposed to merely marrying the tuner to the ECM). The implication is that Power Vision does NOT lock the ECM. Have I understood that correctly?
Does the HD Super Tuner Pro lock the ECM in any way?
Does using a PV on a bike previously tuned via Super Tuner Pro in any way inhibit an HD dealer's ability to access the ECM for diagnostic or safety recall reflash reasons? (e.g. like the current Breakout fuel level sensor software recall)
Jim G