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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 03:02 AM
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i have a keihin carb with accelerator pump, it seems to be flooding my 1965 xlch with too much gas as well as the overflow pissing fuel. i have taken the carb down to local motorcycle shop and every time i re install it , same issue. I have an s&s carb type b without accelerator pump. does anyone know which carb would be better for my ironhead. Thanks hughmungas69@yahoo.com
 
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 04:55 AM
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Here's some links to info that may be helpful ...

Best Carb for an IronHead
http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/s...d.php?t=659533

Cleaning a Carb
http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/s...d.php?t=185361

Setting The Pilot Screw on Your IronHead
http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/s...ad.php?t=71361

All you need to do to fix the Keihin carb that you have is to set the float level. Post pics of the carb to help ID it and i'll see if i can post some instructions.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by jadedone
i have taken the carb down to local motorcycle shop and every time i re install it , same issue.
Sounds like the float level as Mick says. It's just sad that the shop you took it to didn't figure that out.

Dave
 
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 08:33 AM
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so from the links from ironmick, people on the forum are saying keihin carbs are the most efficient and easy starting
 
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by jadedone
so from the links from ironmick, people on the forum are saying keihin carbs are the most efficient and easy starting
Not really. The most easy starting carb is the Mikuni VM38-9. This one is highly recommended especially for kick start bikes. The Keihins are not very efficient - they have to be set rich for the bike to run well; but they are the original carbs for L1976-on. A lot of guys seem to prefer the S&S carb but i have never tried them myself - you have to know them to get the right one [Shorty, Super, B, E, whatever].
 
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 04:22 PM
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Explaining my previous post a little more ...

The Keihin butterfly carbs [L76 to 85-on] have only two jets, the main and the slow. The main is effective at WOT [wide open throttle]; the slow covers everything else - idle, 1/4 throttle, 1/2 throttle, 3/4 throttle. So there is no way to individually tune it for these.

The 79 to 85 FSM has an excellent section detailing the operation of these carbs, with color coded diagrams. These show the idle port, the idle transfer ports [all controled by the slow jet] and the midrange port which is independent. None of these is tunable other than by changing thew slow jet.

The CV used on later models [1989-on, with the accelerator pump] is a much more efficient design. This is a very popular upgrade. But it is not a simple bolt-on; you need a new air cleaner, and there may be other problems to overcome - but lots of guys do it.

Usually available on eBay for less than $100.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 06:47 PM
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Tore apart my Bendix (Zenith) carb last week and I've been soaking everything in the parts washer for a couple of days. The rebuild kit has come in and I spoke with a Zenith rep today who e-mailed some service tips and reassembly instructions. I would probably have upgraded to a Keeihin or a Mikuni but wanted to keep everything as close to original as possible. However, that brings me to a question .....

Question for Mick (and others) - My IH is an '81 but had the Bendix carb on it. Do you know if that carb could have still been ordered as original equipment in 1981 or am I looking at a replacement to what was original.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 08:58 PM
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Original for 1981 was a Keihin 34mm butterfly carb, ID = B83F. This is shown in the factory parts catalog 99451-85A.
 
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The Bendix is a good carb. I've been running with an old Fixed Main bendix for many years with out any trouble that periodic routine maintenance doesn't solve.
 
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