Ironhead A place to talk about Ironheads.

Ironhead issues

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 5, 2014 | 06:49 PM
  #1  
IronHeadDrew's Avatar
IronHeadDrew
Thread Starter
|
Intermediate
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: Daytona Beach
Default Ironhead issues

I have an 84 Ironhead. I just had the top end rebuilt, new leads and coil and timing.My problem is my bike is running good till i go wide open. Then it starts to studder or miss like its over loading or too rich. If im just cruising, itll go to 65mph and thats it. Then its starts its studdering ****.Im not sure of the problem and could use some desperatley needed advice/help.
 
Reply
Old Apr 5, 2014 | 07:09 PM
  #2  
johnjzjz's Avatar
johnjzjz
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 12,878
Likes: 5,448
From: la la land jerzey
Default

Originally Posted by IronHeadDrew
I have an 84 Ironhead. I just had the top end rebuilt, new leads and coil and timing.My problem is my bike is running good till i go wide open. Then it starts to studder or miss like its over loading or too rich. If im just cruising, itll go to 65mph and thats it. Then its starts its studdering ****.Im not sure of the problem and could use some desperatley needed advice/help.
you have no real info to get help - what carb / what ignition / oem or ?????? / how old is the fuel in it -- kind of info helps
 
Reply
Old Apr 5, 2014 | 08:57 PM
  #3  
IronMick's Avatar
IronMick
Stellar HDF Member
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,179
Likes: 118
From: London, ON Canada
Default

Stutter and miss sounds to me like lack of fuel. Check the float level in the carb bowl. I'll bet you a beer that it is set too low
 
Reply
Old Apr 5, 2014 | 10:45 PM
  #4  
IronHeadDrew's Avatar
IronHeadDrew
Thread Starter
|
Intermediate
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: Daytona Beach
Default

Sorry, late Keihin carb, OEM electronic ignition (breakerless). New gas, just filled up.
Float height is a possibility, but it just started doing it. Had no problems with it before this.
 
Reply
Old Apr 5, 2014 | 10:55 PM
  #5  
Inkydoggy's Avatar
Inkydoggy
Intermediate
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
From: Sharon, Pennsylvania USA
Default

What rev limit do you have your new electronic ignition set at. I set mine way to low after installing it. Mine did just what you say your bike is doing. I turned up the rev limit so it would allow a higher rev from the engine by resetting the switches on my ignition board. Then my bike ran like a raped ape being chased by a much larger in heat gorilla. He hasn't caught my bike yet.

 
Reply
Old Apr 5, 2014 | 11:09 PM
  #6  
IronHeadDrew's Avatar
IronHeadDrew
Thread Starter
|
Intermediate
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: Daytona Beach
Default

Its OEM, like a distibutor. Its doesnt have a rev limiter. Before this crap started, it wouldnt peg out. It would have kept goin till it blew the motor. I never took it that far cause that **** aint cheap, haha. A couple buddies of mine told me to check the main jet...? So now Ive been told main jet, float height, rev limiter, and accelerator pump. And im not trying to
**** with all these and dig myself a deeper hole. Ive gone threw school for motorcycles but im still learning. I have no problem with taking it apart and replacing/rebuilding...its diagnostics thats kickin my ***.
 
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2014 | 01:25 AM
  #7  
Inkydoggy's Avatar
Inkydoggy
Intermediate
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
From: Sharon, Pennsylvania USA
Default

Continually taking apart, checking things, rebuilding, & adding stuff are all part of owning a Harley. Hope you get it straightened out.
 
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2014 | 07:25 AM
  #8  
IronMick's Avatar
IronMick
Stellar HDF Member
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,179
Likes: 118
From: London, ON Canada
Default

I had the same symptom on my 1980 some years ago. I was some distance from home and once i got up in RPM it would sputter; release the throttle, cost a bit, and it was good again. Repeat.

At the higher RPM it was draining the float bowl. Set up the float and was good to go. It was running fine before this. Not necessarily your problem but it is more likely than the other suggestions.

Here's some notes - note the carb stand, much easier to adjust and test the float level with the carb set up on the bench [my current version uses angle aluminum instead of flat steel - easier to drill the two holes, and more stable].

To test the float i set the carb on the stand top side up and fill the bowl using a small funnel and a couple inches of clear plastic tubing ...

Cleaning a Carb

1. Removing it from the bike should be straight forward. First thing when it is out is to check the pilot screw setting. Turn it all the way in until gently seated counting the number of 1/4 turns; then write this number down; then reset it.

2. I put mine in a vice to remove the screws, and for much of the following work. Wrap in a shop towel; close the vice gently taking extra care with the choke and throttle linkages. The vice is a needed extra pair of hands.

EDIT: This setup works better than putting the carb directly into the vice ...



3. I am very careful handling the float so as to not change the level. I use the official specs for setting the level as in the FM, and check it, every time i dismantle the carb, as the last thing before putting it back together.

4. The jets are made of brass, a soft metal that is easily damaged. Use an exact correct size screwdriver. I ground a medium flat blade screwdriver down to exact size on my bench grinder to access the slow jet.

5. The general appearance of the inside of the carb is not necessarily a good indication of its condition. It can look spotless and have clogged jets, or look cruddy and have clear jets.

6. I prefer to clean each individual part rather than soak or boil the whole carb in carb cleaner. But either way is good. Do not allow any solvents to contact any rubber parts [tip of needle, o-ring seal for bowl].

7. Make a list of all of the jets and passages for your carb using the carb manual or the FM for the bike. Then ensure that you can blow either compressed air or carb cleaner thru each one.

8. Remove the pilot screw and clean the parts and the passage. The passage contains in this sequence: pilot screw, spring, washer, o-ring. These are very small parts, especially the washer and o-ring. Usually the spring will easily fall out. One time i thought the spring was not in there because it would not fall out; i obtained a new spring and could not get it in! The technique for removing the washer and o-ring is to use a pipe cleaner: stick it in the hole, twist it around, remove it - you should see the washer and o-ring on the end of the pipe cleaner.

Remember that the purpose of the washer is to protect the o-ring from the spring and you will always get them back in in the correct sequence.

EDIT: Some carbs, noteably 1966 to 1978 Sportster carbs, do not have the o-ring and washer in the pilot screw passage.

9. Dismantle the accelerator pump assembly noting carefully the sequence and orientation of the parts. Clean and inspect the parts. Replace the diaphragm if it is cracked.

10. Check the float level then carefully put it back together. I personally find it very confusing trying to decide which way to bend the tang if it is not correct. If the fuel level is low is the float high or low? Do i need to bend the tang up or down? On the bench the carb is usually upside down, adding to the confusion. Sort all this out before making an adjustment.

Best to replace the original Phillips screws for the bowl with stainless steel socket head screws.
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Southpaw Super Glide: A Left-Hand-Drive 1979 Harley FXE Built to Fit the Rider

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Apr 6, 2014 | 10:20 AM
  #9  
Harbri's Avatar
Harbri
Advanced
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
From: Costa Rica
Default

To me it sounds like a to rich situation ,i had the same problem and the jets were to large,but i moved to a higher altitude area 5000 ft ASL. I had to go a far bit down in jet sizes to get it not to sputter at higher rpm.
 
Reply
Old Apr 6, 2014 | 11:34 AM
  #10  
IronHeadDrew's Avatar
IronHeadDrew
Thread Starter
|
Intermediate
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: Daytona Beach
Default

So how about this for the culprit. Yes it was too rich. Was have that established..plugs were black. Now pay attention...the choke plate spring. The spring that holds the choke plate open when the choke is off...its worn out. Its not holding the plate open..there for im getting into fast speeds and im not getting the proper air flow to even it out...so the choke is on and basically im running way to rich and thats why its studdering.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:08 AM.

story-0
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-3
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-4
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-5
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE
story-9
Southpaw Super Glide: A Left-Hand-Drive 1979 Harley FXE Built to Fit the Rider

Slideshow: Graeme Billington's left-hand-drive Shovelhead is as much about problem-solving as it is about classic Harley form.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2025-12-30 11:27:08


VIEW MORE