Knuckle Head A place to talk about Knuckle Head motors.

Primary Chain Oiler

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 28, 2022 | 08:43 PM
  #1  
lownslow's Avatar
lownslow
Thread Starter
|
Road Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 931
Likes: 112
From: Oregon
Default Primary Chain Oiler

Hey all, 1941 FL. For 10+ years I have not had to adjust my primary oiler, always left a half dollar spot on the ground after stopping for a break. This is what many have called the perfect adjustment. On my ride last sunday I stopped for a break and noticed a maybe 4" puddle/spot. Way more than usual. Did some **** just break loose in the needle orifice allowing more flow or is there something else I should be looking at. I don't run an oil filter because I like the bike correct so the oil gets dumped fairly often and it's not a daily rider. Any thoughts? Oh yea, it was enough oil slingin around in there that some found it's way into the clutch basket so that's apart being cleaned up.
 
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2022 | 05:51 AM
  #2  
Architect's Avatar
Architect
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 9,562
Likes: 7,917
From: Long Island, New York
Default

The oiler adjustment is about as easy as can be, just remove the screw and add or substract washers/spacers.

I was told 2 drips per minute is about right. My bike was doing about 20 drops per minute and leaving a mess in her wake. After removing some spacers I got her down to the 2 drips and all has been well since.

For me (WL 45) I found it easy to just remove the primary chain cover and go for a ride. After 15 minutes pulled over and with a stop watch counted drips. Repeated until I got her adjusted the way I wanted her to be.

All of that said, unless the screw fell out, no reason why the adjustment should change. Do you look to see if the screw is still there.?

If it is, your leak is likely from somewhere else. Again, take primary chain cover off and go for a ride. Clean everything up first. Good luck.
 
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2022 | 06:47 AM
  #3  
johnjzjz's Avatar
johnjzjz
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 12,878
Likes: 5,449
From: la la land jerzey
Default

Even tho you change the oil a lot a piece of grit could have gotten under the oil tank ball check at the oil pump - will it pass maybe - you Said it did it once when you stopped for a while — now parked is it still over dropping - ??????????

if so the ball and spring could be changed out - nothing lasts for ever
 
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2022 | 04:36 PM
  #4  
lownslow's Avatar
lownslow
Thread Starter
|
Road Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 931
Likes: 112
From: Oregon
Default

Architect, screw is there, haven't needed to touch it for over 10 years. Gonna remove it though and have a looksy. John, very possible on the check ball. First gonna check oil is returning to the tank. Then the screw. I like your method arch of leaving the cover off the checking it to adjust. Thanks gentlemen, good advice as always.
 
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2022 | 08:21 PM
  #5  
lownslow's Avatar
lownslow
Thread Starter
|
Road Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 931
Likes: 112
From: Oregon
Default

The screw has 9 .002 shims, one fiber type shim and the washer. Fired her up cold and there is return oil to the tank but at the oiler it's about a drop every 2-3 seconds. Yikes. Shut it off as it was making a mess. Researching what to try next as something is definitely amiss......

 
Reply
Old May 1, 2022 | 01:55 PM
  #6  
johnjzjz's Avatar
johnjzjz
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 12,878
Likes: 5,449
From: la la land jerzey
Default

Not un common for an early engine to change What it was doing to something it never did before - nature of the beast

use around 1/2 the number of washers and see what it does now

thinner oil or a different type oil - was used maybe - smell the oil in the engine for a gas smell - that would be a carb needle and seat and or the float

only use a stainless needle and a rubber ducky float -
 
Reply
Old May 2, 2022 | 03:12 PM
  #7  
lownslow's Avatar
lownslow
Thread Starter
|
Road Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 931
Likes: 112
From: Oregon
Default

Thanks John, same old 60W oil, didn't smell for any fuel though, good idea. I'll cut down on the shims and see what happens. Left it to go for a long ride on a sunny day yesterday. Springtime is here...........
 
Reply
Old May 3, 2022 | 06:17 AM
  #8  
Architect's Avatar
Architect
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 9,562
Likes: 7,917
From: Long Island, New York
Default

That is about how many shims I had on my bike, plus an odd lock washer. I started by removing lock washer and half the shims, then went from there. it only took about 3 tries before I got her right. Good luck.
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
Old May 21, 2022 | 09:41 PM
  #9  
lownslow's Avatar
lownslow
Thread Starter
|
Road Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 931
Likes: 112
From: Oregon
Default

Update...........I installed the screw and gently tightened until it bottomed out on the seat. Then, tried to put the washer in the gap that was left. No go, which means with just the washer, the needle is off the seat. I worked it with shims until it was essentially closed off and still over oiling. Johnjz, I'm not understanding what difference the check ball and spring would have on the situation??? I've studied that oil flow diagram in the service manual until my brain hurt. If I understand it right, the primary chain oiler is just downstream from the line that feeds the timing gears. Is this why people convert to belt drive? Har.........
 
Reply
Old May 22, 2022 | 03:44 PM
  #10  
johnjzjz's Avatar
johnjzjz
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 12,878
Likes: 5,449
From: la la land jerzey
Default

I WILL RE READ WHAT YOU ARE CHASING. Then i will re give you what i think and any changes or adjustments

i believe you are bleeding off oil and The Y its doing it - will try and explain tomorrow

just ]t know what i think you said is its been fine 20 years - then this just happened

it might not be the oil pump - but the breather valve caught a piece / grain of steel and now it has lost its vacuum
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:46 PM.

story-0
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-5
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-6
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE