LiveWire Discount on LiveWire
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https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt...ke-electricity
"We only use about 10 percent of what we make, and the rest is fed onto the [electricity] grid," Melnik explains. It's enough to power about 1,500 homes.
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It's the typical thing to roll out plans without looking at how that plan can be handled in the real world. It will get the mayor some brownie points and a few years from now millions of dollars will have been spent of the public's money and we will not have but a few more charging stations. If someone was to take a real look at what it takes to supply the charging requirements of 10,000 of these vehicles and then try to find the power to do it, one would see that as things are today from the power company's and distribution, it's not possible. So how about finding out what needs to be done to be able to supply the power and handle that, you know, use a little common sense! Currently the charging stations we do have, have not come from the State, County or Cities but from private business and if they cannot make money they will stop investing in it.. So what's it going to take to generate the power and get enough supply for the vehicles to be used? Then what amount of emissions offset is there between generating all the power and the vehicles? So far every study I have read shows the overall emissions goes up to run electric vehicles, your simply moving it from the vehicle to the power generation plants. Also they have not figured out how to dispose of the battery waste that comes along with this, if it is scaled up, to what these plans want.
This is a case of a poorly planed system that is not ready for what is being asked of it. I hope that it can be in the future but IMHO they need to figure out the basic parts of the system first and that is a clean way to generate the power and distribute it and how to handle all the battery waste. The technology just isn't where it needs to be on these very key parts today.
This is a case of a poorly planed system that is not ready for what is being asked of it. I hope that it can be in the future but IMHO they need to figure out the basic parts of the system first and that is a clean way to generate the power and distribute it and how to handle all the battery waste. The technology just isn't where it needs to be on these very key parts today.
Yeah I looked through the plan and there was nothing about upgrading the power generation capabilities, a little up upgrading infrastructure but no estimate of cost.
Road Captain
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From: San Diego
Definitely going to be a long time to a discount.
look at the Zero SR/F for better range and cheaper price.
look at any of the 2021 Enericga models for TWICE the range, same DC charging and STILL 9k cheaper than the livewire 🙄
look at the Zero SR/F for better range and cheaper price.
look at any of the 2021 Enericga models for TWICE the range, same DC charging and STILL 9k cheaper than the livewire 🙄
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From: Virginia
How many dealerships does Energica have in the US? What did you say? Really twelve whole dealerships. That's great for support when you need it.
Road Captain
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From: San Diego
oh, and you know HD sells bikes worldwide, right? And not every dealer is authorized to work on the livewire, right? Only if they did the 50k buy in and got the certification.
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