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Old May 14, 2017 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mjwebb
not only that, but his testing showed very positive results using the fan assisted oil cooler..that sucker really should have come stock on the non water cooled bikes since they decided to go that route..glad I put one on as we head into Summer
I agree.
 
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Old May 14, 2017 | 09:54 AM
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not only that, but his testing showed very positive results using the fan assisted oil cooler..that sucker really should have come stock on the non water cooled bikes since they decided to go that route..glad I put one on as we head into Summer
Just for squirts and giggles I checked my oil temp on a particularly warm spring day when the ambient air temp was 83 degrees outside. I rode the bike at 70 mph for about 45 minutes and then pulled over, pulled the dipstick out and stuck a digital thermometer down into the hot oil. I got 219.1 degrees Fahrenheit.

My M8 is air cooled. I then hit it with another thermometer and got near identical readings, so I am satisfied I was getting an accurate reading. I have not checked it recently but my sense is that when it gets up around 90-95 degrees outside I am going to see some oil temps which are higher than what we have seen on 96" and 103" engines. I fully expect to see 230-240 degrees on a normal highway run @ 70 mph. If you are riding in city traffic where you have a stop and go situation you will see significantly higher oil temps. Exactly how high I am not sure.

I think if you are a rider who lives in a "hot" climate it should be imperative that we run a good quality synthetic oil in our M8 crankcases. And yes, a fan assisted oil cooler would probably be a good decision, especially if you ride in a "hot" climate.The brand of course is up to the individual rider as I do not wish to get embroiled in another "which brand is best" debate.

So, even though the MOCO touts the new M8 as a "cooler" running engine, I believe that they are actually referring to rider comfort instead of physically running at a cooler temperature. It does a good job of keeping the heat away from the rider and passenger but it is going to run hotter internally.
 
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Old May 14, 2017 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Wide Open Cycles
Hi Craig. Yes your tune is spot on, the airfuel and timing are right where they need to be. Oil temp of 220 is what I would expect in our area.


What should I be looking for on my AFR numbers with a tuner? I have heard the HD Pro street tuner will not adjust enough to compensate for headers/slip on set ups. Dealer told me no more than 13:1 or slightly more. I am seeing 14.6 closed loop and 13 open loop. Do you know if I can get a data monitor without a tuner?
 
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Old May 15, 2017 | 09:10 AM
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As I posted earlier running in temps in mid to upper 90's my dipstick temps stayed below 230 and that was running for hours at speeds of 70-80mph along with some 40mph riding.
I'm running synthetic and have the fan assist cooler
 
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Old Aug 26, 2017 | 12:00 PM
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So when I cruise on the Highway at 75 I'll stay at about 266. If I get on it to pass often I get up to about 288 and It does not come back down unless I go down to 60mph for a bit... I have an aggressive tune and love the way the bike runs but wonder about the temp...
 
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Old Aug 26, 2017 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SoZo
So when I cruise on the Highway at 75 I'll stay at about 266. If I get on it to pass often I get up to about 288 and It does not come back down unless I go down to 60mph for a bit... I have an aggressive tune and love the way the bike runs but wonder about the temp...

So is that engine temp, cylinder head temp or oil temp?
 
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Old Aug 26, 2017 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SoZo
So when I cruise on the Highway at 75 I'll stay at about 266. If I get on it to pass often I get up to about 288 and It does not come back down unless I go down to 60mph for a bit... I have an aggressive tune and love the way the bike runs but wonder about the temp...
Might be sumping...get it checked. Those are similar engine temps I was seeing but the higher temps were around 300. I'm on my 3rd 114 engine. the first 2 sumped with the stage 4 kit and required a replacement engine.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2017 | 01:48 PM
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Thanks...!
hmm does not ever loose power but I will check.
I am just reading the temp off the Power Vision

What temps should I be seeing ?



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Fairly old thread but a lot of good info in it I was looking for. Mainly the head temp the M8 should be running at.

I have a 2017 triglide. I installed an oil cooled, remote filter and the small love jugs fans. Temp monitored with a PV.

So far my head temp runs at a constant 275 and coolant temp at 176 to 185. Very happy with that after reading thru this thread. Thanks to everyone who contributed....
 
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Old Oct 16, 2017 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Nomadmax
...oil isn't a coolant and trying to make it one degrades it's lubrication performance.
Absurdly wrong.

From link, Understanding Oil Flow:
"This flow of oil serves three purposes. First, it lubricates, but cooling the engine by carrying away the heat generated by combustion is a second purpose, which is often just as important. Many engines, particularly those which are turbocharged, have oil squirts in each cylinder which are designed to direct cooling oil on the back side of the piston. And finally, the oil cleans the engine by picking up dirt and depositing it in the screens or filter, or by keeping that dirt in suspension until the oil is changed."
 

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