TTS or Power Vision?
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TTS or Power Vision?
Hey all, ready to pull the pin on a tuner but cannot decide which one, TTS or PV. For all intents and purposes they seem to have the same options. I just want to self/auto tune or load a map for stage 1 until I do a cam and then will dyno. I don't care about the handlebar mounted interface that PV offers and feel that it makes it a bit cheesy. Can the riders that are 'in the know' please advise me as what the differences are? BTW, all the guys that want to tell me about warranty issues, SAVE IT, i do not care what you have to say as I am already up on the warranty guidelines with my dealer and if i get into problems on the road.
Cheers, ride it hard and ride it safe
Cheers, ride it hard and ride it safe
Road Captain
Joined: Jul 2016
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From: Ottawa
TTS will allow for more upgrades in the future if you decide to do any other stage upgrades. There are some other posts asking the same questions with detailed advantages of both. Go to this thread:
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/milwa...fp3-tuner.html
Hope this helps.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/milwa...fp3-tuner.html
Hope this helps.
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From: Kelowna B.C.
TTS will allow for more upgrades in the future if you decide to do any other stage upgrades. There are some other posts asking the same questions with detailed advantages of both. Go to this thread:
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/milwa...fp3-tuner.html
Hope this helps.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/milwa...fp3-tuner.html
Hope this helps.
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Both will do essentially anything you want. You want a Stage 1? They can both handle it. You want to run 8.5's in the quarter? They can both do that as well.
I've been using an SE Pro Super Tuner, which, obviously, is no longer "officially" available. So, I've been studying, and talking to knowledgeable people. I'm going with a Power Vision for my next tuner module, and here's why:
1. The Power Vision is easier to use if you want to learn how to do your own tunes. Far more "approachable" for the beginner.
2. The most important point for me is after sale support. I intend to buy my Power Vision from Fuel Moto. If you buy from them, you're getting a DynoJet technical partner, and there's nobody that knows Power Vision like Fuel Moto. Plus, if you tell them the build/parts that are on your bike, they will supply you the tune, which you can then flash to your bike. And, if you have any questions, their support is legendary here at HDF.
No-brainer for me: my next will be a Power Vision from Fuel Moto.
I've been using an SE Pro Super Tuner, which, obviously, is no longer "officially" available. So, I've been studying, and talking to knowledgeable people. I'm going with a Power Vision for my next tuner module, and here's why:
1. The Power Vision is easier to use if you want to learn how to do your own tunes. Far more "approachable" for the beginner.
2. The most important point for me is after sale support. I intend to buy my Power Vision from Fuel Moto. If you buy from them, you're getting a DynoJet technical partner, and there's nobody that knows Power Vision like Fuel Moto. Plus, if you tell them the build/parts that are on your bike, they will supply you the tune, which you can then flash to your bike. And, if you have any questions, their support is legendary here at HDF.
No-brainer for me: my next will be a Power Vision from Fuel Moto.
Road Captain
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From: Ottawa
One of the biggest benefits of TTS is that they develop multiple base calibrations for many build variances including cams and exhaust. A lot of other tuners have set maps for lack of better terms and if you don't have the exact combination, then you don't really benefit from the setup you have. TTS is constantly doing testing of various mods and setups, and they allow you to do downloads from their site for any upgrades to the software for their tuner. All in all, it is a great option if you like to modify exhaust, air breathers or do other stage upgrades down the road.
Road Captain
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From: Ottawa
If you go to the Dyno Room chat area there are a ton of posts on the various tuners:
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/the-dyno-room-190/
This should help.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/the-dyno-room-190/
This should help.
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From: San Diego, CA
Both are excellent tuners and will support any mods you want to do to your bike.
I went with PowerVision for a few reasons:
1) I'm new to computer EFI tuning. The PV seems to be more user friendly.
2) I got my PV from FuelMoto, and now I get support from both DynoJet & FuelMoto, as well as FuelMoto's lifetime map support..
3) The PV is a little cheaper out of the gate and it's cheaper to add extra bikes. You can add as many bikes as you want, to one tuner, for $199 each new license. My PV currently has my two bikes, and two close friend's bikes on it. When I get my new M8 next year, $199 and I can add it to my PV... The TTS comes in a single or dual version. You can upgrade a single to a dual for $200, but if you want to add a third, you'll have to pay the price for a another TTS tuner ($445). So, not counting the difference in price of the tuners, just to add the bikes I have on my PV to a TTS, by the time I add my M8, it would cost me $292 more with the TTS...
Just my 2 cents...
I went with PowerVision for a few reasons:
1) I'm new to computer EFI tuning. The PV seems to be more user friendly.
2) I got my PV from FuelMoto, and now I get support from both DynoJet & FuelMoto, as well as FuelMoto's lifetime map support..
3) The PV is a little cheaper out of the gate and it's cheaper to add extra bikes. You can add as many bikes as you want, to one tuner, for $199 each new license. My PV currently has my two bikes, and two close friend's bikes on it. When I get my new M8 next year, $199 and I can add it to my PV... The TTS comes in a single or dual version. You can upgrade a single to a dual for $200, but if you want to add a third, you'll have to pay the price for a another TTS tuner ($445). So, not counting the difference in price of the tuners, just to add the bikes I have on my PV to a TTS, by the time I add my M8, it would cost me $292 more with the TTS...
Just my 2 cents...
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Both will do essentially anything you want. You want a Stage 1? They can both handle it. You want to run 8.5's in the quarter? They can both do that as well.
I've been using an SE Pro Super Tuner, which, obviously, is no longer "officially" available. So, I've been studying, and talking to knowledgeable people. I'm going with a Power Vision for my next tuner module, and here's why:
1. The Power Vision is easier to use if you want to learn how to do your own tunes. Far more "approachable" for the beginner.
2. The most important point for me is after sale support. I intend to buy my Power Vision from Fuel Moto. If you buy from them, you're getting a DynoJet technical partner, and there's nobody that knows Power Vision like Fuel Moto. Plus, if you tell them the build/parts that are on your bike, they will supply you the tune, which you can then flash to your bike. And, if you have any questions, their support is legendary here at HDF.
No-brainer for me: my next will be a Power Vision from Fuel Moto.
I've been using an SE Pro Super Tuner, which, obviously, is no longer "officially" available. So, I've been studying, and talking to knowledgeable people. I'm going with a Power Vision for my next tuner module, and here's why:
1. The Power Vision is easier to use if you want to learn how to do your own tunes. Far more "approachable" for the beginner.
2. The most important point for me is after sale support. I intend to buy my Power Vision from Fuel Moto. If you buy from them, you're getting a DynoJet technical partner, and there's nobody that knows Power Vision like Fuel Moto. Plus, if you tell them the build/parts that are on your bike, they will supply you the tune, which you can then flash to your bike. And, if you have any questions, their support is legendary here at HDF.
No-brainer for me: my next will be a Power Vision from Fuel Moto.
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One of the biggest benefits of TTS is that they develop multiple base calibrations for many build variances including cams and exhaust. A lot of other tuners have set maps for lack of better terms and if you don't have the exact combination, then you don't really benefit from the setup you have. TTS is constantly doing testing of various mods and setups, and they allow you to do downloads from their site for any upgrades to the software for their tuner. All in all, it is a great option if you like to modify exhaust, air breathers or do other stage upgrades down the road.
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From: Ottawa
NP, that's what these forums are all about. Harley enthusiasts helping other Harley enthusiasts. Check out this thread about South of the boarder buying experiences from other Cdn riders. It may help you out:
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/canad...r-vendors.html
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/canad...r-vendors.html