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Old Aug 12, 2019 | 11:47 AM
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I just haven’t noticed any such thing on my 18 SG. It could be that I downshift differently than you I guess. But I have held the clutch in and ran through the gears and haven’t had any problems.
Most of the time I do use engine breaking as I am coming to a stop, just not crazy fast really.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2019 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Vultimate04
I tried to search on this topic and cannot get a hit. So I’m gonna ask the question here. When attempting to engine brake on my ‘17 Ultra Limited during a quick decel (to conserve brakes and be in first gear at stop), the clutch is not engaging in 3-2-1, again on quick decel. Is this a clutch switch issue or is the engine speed to fast for the clutch to engage in the selected gear? On previous bikes, never had an issue downshifting at any speed except to be careful not to cause rear tire to lock. I’ve had this issue since I purchased the bike w 7K mi on it about 9 mns ago. I really don’t like fully relying on the brakes during a quick decel, although ABS does help. I prefer to engine brake by downshifting from 5-3-2-1 but the clutch or tranny is not responding to the driver’s commands. Anyone have this issue? Thanks all.

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I believe what you're experiencing may be related to the slip and assist clutch. Just googled slip and assist clutch and found this:

Harley says it provides significantly more torque-handling capacity, is “designed for improved engagement grip, and provides minor slippage during downshifting to reduce shock to the power train,”
https://www.motorcycle.com/features/...ip-assist.html
 
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Old Aug 12, 2019 | 01:00 PM
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Curious. What kind of oil do you use ?
 
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Old Aug 12, 2019 | 02:26 PM
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Almost sounds like the shifter isn’t being allowed to go back far enough to catch the next gear. Not a trans guy, lol.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2019 | 02:34 PM
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You shouldn’t downshift and cause more than 1K rev increase, or you’re gonna blwe w the pistons through the gas tank.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2019 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TriGeezer
You shouldn’t downshift and cause more than 1K rev increase, or you’re gonna blwe w the pistons through the gas tank.

Sarcasm right? LMAO
 
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Old Aug 12, 2019 | 03:38 PM
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Mine won't let me downshift fully through all the gears in one lever pull either. I think all my previous bikes did the same - can't remember.

I usually have to let the lever out a wee bit a few times to get all the way to first.
 

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Old Aug 12, 2019 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by lp
Mine won't let me downshift fully through all the gears in one lever pull either. I think all my previous bikes did the same - can't remember.

I usually have to let the lever out a wee bit a few times to get all the way to first.

Same here, had to do this exact same thing on my 2017 SGS and now on my 2019 CVO SG, no big deal after you get used to it.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2019 | 08:11 PM
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My two cents:

1. Your shifting mechanism is not working properly. It should do what you are trying to do.

2. Doing what you are trying to do is not a good idea. Years ago motorcycle brakes were weak and
needed engine braking for fast stops. Modern braking systems are adequate for fast stops with no engine assist.
The brakes can handle it, no need to add wear and tear to the motor.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2019 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Crabchuck
You need to read how a constant mesh synchronous transmission works..... They can't go multiple gear changes while stopped by design. The system needs to be moving.
I don’t need to read anything I figured out on my own it doesn’t like this! I’m not complaining just addressing the OPs concerns
 
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