m8 break in
m8 break in
I purchased my 107 2020 heritage in aug/sept. Since then I've already had my 500mi tune up. so now I'm at about 2500 miles on the odo. I have not done any mods its all original still. my question is, is it normal that my 3rd and 4th gear runs/sounds ruff while riding and when I come out of 4th into 5th I'm smooth sailing. Did I do something wrong since it came off the floor with 7mi on it. plus I have a ticking noise after 4th gear. I appreciate all the help. Remember I'm a noob like my mc
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From: State of Confusion
I purchased my 107 2020 heritage in aug/sept. Since then I've already had my 500mi tune up. so now I'm at about 2500 miles on the odo. I have not done any mods its all original still. my question is, is it normal that my 3rd and 4th gear runs/sounds ruff while riding and when I come out of 4th into 5th I'm smooth sailing. Did I do something wrong since it came off the floor with 7mi on it. plus I have a ticking noise after 4th gear. I appreciate all the help. Remember I'm a noob like my mc
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From: Eastern Canada
When my bike was new , it had a quiet top end, then it got noisy.I then had a stage 2 installed..all quiet again. After a few hundred more miles noisy again ( all top end noise ). PITA , but I'm accepting it , till I upgrade again after warranty . I think it's just the nature of these motors..I hope so....
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From: Honah Lee
Break in is simply the Mothership's lawyers telling them to but it in the owners manual. Modern machines and tolerances have made these motors,trans and primary so closes, they are broke in in just a few miles.
There main concern is maybe something missed in assembly or say a flaw in a bolt or such that may let loose. They don't want some fool getting a new bike and think since it says what it says on speedometer think they should mske sure it will.
If something lets go, the hope you are going easy. If it's going to break, it will break going easy.
The only reason they have the 1000 mile check is to protect Harley. No one should have to pay for that. They are just making sure they keep their strings in their cash cow..
Do nothing more then what the service manual says. After warranty, it's way over kill. Time has nothing to do with oil life
New cars with maintenance monitoring does not factor time. Least the ones I have seen. And I just worked on a 3 year old Acura.
PS...did your owners manual call out a 500 miles check?
There main concern is maybe something missed in assembly or say a flaw in a bolt or such that may let loose. They don't want some fool getting a new bike and think since it says what it says on speedometer think they should mske sure it will.
If something lets go, the hope you are going easy. If it's going to break, it will break going easy.
The only reason they have the 1000 mile check is to protect Harley. No one should have to pay for that. They are just making sure they keep their strings in their cash cow..
Do nothing more then what the service manual says. After warranty, it's way over kill. Time has nothing to do with oil life
New cars with maintenance monitoring does not factor time. Least the ones I have seen. And I just worked on a 3 year old Acura.
PS...did your owners manual call out a 500 miles check?
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From: State of Confusion
Break in is simply the Mothership's lawyers telling them to but it in the owners manual. Modern machines and tolerances have made these motors,trans and primary so closes, they are broke in in just a few miles.
There main concern is maybe something missed in assembly or say a flaw in a bolt or such that may let loose. They don't want some fool getting a new bike and think since it says what it says on speedometer think they should mske sure it will.
If something lets go, the hope you are going easy. If it's going to break, it will break going easy.
The only reason they have the 1000 mile check is to protect Harley. No one should have to pay for that. They are just making sure they keep their strings in their cash cow..
Do nothing more then what the service manual says. After warranty, it's way over kill. Time has nothing to do with oil life
New cars with maintenance monitoring does not factor time. Least the ones I have seen. And I just worked on a 3 year old Acura.
PS...did your owners manual call out a 500 miles check?
There main concern is maybe something missed in assembly or say a flaw in a bolt or such that may let loose. They don't want some fool getting a new bike and think since it says what it says on speedometer think they should mske sure it will.
If something lets go, the hope you are going easy. If it's going to break, it will break going easy.
The only reason they have the 1000 mile check is to protect Harley. No one should have to pay for that. They are just making sure they keep their strings in their cash cow..
Do nothing more then what the service manual says. After warranty, it's way over kill. Time has nothing to do with oil life
New cars with maintenance monitoring does not factor time. Least the ones I have seen. And I just worked on a 3 year old Acura.
PS...did your owners manual call out a 500 miles check?
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From: Honah Lee
I provided and take care of my two student's cars. I carried in at the time a 3 year old Civic that I purchased new and came with free state inspection and oil changes. They know me at dealership since I have always did all my own work even though they grow weary of free oil changes on a CRV.
Always look at everything before carrying cars in. Even re-torque lug nuts when I get them back and quick look under.
Glanced under Civic when I got making sure filter looked new and no leaks. There was grease on the outboard CV boot. Knew it was OK before carrying it in. Couldn't find a tear. Wiped it good. A few days later, checked and little more grease in the V of the boot. Cleaned it up this time with cleaner. Mechanic had punched a hole with a scribe.
Guess he figured next year on inspection, he would get to replace a drive shaft.
Toyota dealer pulled similar stunt on my 4X4. On free state inspection , they pulled a free all point maintenance list I never ask for. Told me battery was low on amperage.
Told them I would take care of it. About a month later, would not crank at work at 12AM. Wasn't battery. I finally jumped the interlock relay at relay in engine compartment basically hot wiring it to start in any gear.
Start circuit was cut out from switch on side of transmission. They had unplugged it and pushed it in just so it made contact and did not clip in. It had backed out. At first, I thought it had gone bad and was pulling it . Its up between transmission hump. When I was reaching up trying to get a 10MM socket on it, wire fell down.
I plugged it back in. Typical of most plug clips, there a pain to undo.
It was cristal clear what had happened. At the Toyota dealership, you can observe their work. After mechanic had inspection and changed the oil, a white shirt manager had walked under truck looking and reaching up. I assumed at the time checking for quality work.
That Toyota at the time were crooks all the way to the top.
Six months ago, I purchased a new Honda for my graduated student. Came with free oil and state inspection. It will only go back there if it's a warranty item.
Mobile 1 15,000 mile Oil and OEM filter are on my work bench. State inspection will be at a small shop with a bay door I can observe it. And when they pop the hood, there is a good chance they will have to say insurance restricts me there. So I shake my head OK till hood comes down. They have told me numerous times. I always politely back up really slow shaking my head OK.
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I'm cool with that. For most, they need to go in and have their bikes checked out. And if you don't do the full drill, there is a good chance they will screw with you.
I provided and take care of my two student's cars. I carried in at the time a 3 year old Civic that I purchased new and came with free state inspection and oil changes. They know me at dealership since I have always did all my own work even though they grow weary of free oil changes on a CRV.
Always look at everything before carrying cars in. Even re-torque lug nuts when I get them back and quick look under.
Glanced under Civic when I got making sure filter looked new and no leaks. There was grease on the outboard CV boot. Knew it was OK before carrying it in. Couldn't find a tear. Wiped it good. A few days later, checked and little more grease in the V of the boot. Cleaned it up this time with cleaner. Mechanic had punched a hole with a scribe.
Guess he figured next year on inspection, he would get to replace a drive shaft.
Toyota dealer pulled similar stunt on my 4X4. On free state inspection , they pulled a free all point maintenance list I never ask for. Told me battery was low on amperage.
Told them I would take care of it. About a month later, would not crank at work at 12AM. Wasn't battery. I finally jumped the interlock relay at relay in engine compartment basically hot wiring it to start in any gear.
Start circuit was cut out from switch on side of transmission. They had unplugged it and pushed it in just so it made contact and did not clip in. It had backed out. At first, I thought it had gone bad and was pulling it . Its up between transmission hump. When I was reaching up trying to get a 10MM socket on it, wire fell down.
I plugged it back in. Typical of most plug clips, there a pain to undo.
It was cristal clear what had happened. At the Toyota dealership, you can observe their work. After mechanic had inspection and changed the oil, a white shirt manager had walked under truck looking and reaching up. I assumed at the time checking for quality work.
That Toyota at the time were crooks all the way to the top.
Six months ago, I purchased a new Honda for my graduated student. Came with free oil and state inspection. It will only go back there if it's a warranty item.
Mobile 1 15,000 mile Oil and OEM filter are on my work bench. State inspection will be at a small shop with a bay door I can observe it. And when they pop the hood, there is a good chance they will have to say insurance restricts me there. So I shake my head OK till hood comes down. They have told me numerous times. I always politely back up really slow shaking my head OK.
I provided and take care of my two student's cars. I carried in at the time a 3 year old Civic that I purchased new and came with free state inspection and oil changes. They know me at dealership since I have always did all my own work even though they grow weary of free oil changes on a CRV.
Always look at everything before carrying cars in. Even re-torque lug nuts when I get them back and quick look under.
Glanced under Civic when I got making sure filter looked new and no leaks. There was grease on the outboard CV boot. Knew it was OK before carrying it in. Couldn't find a tear. Wiped it good. A few days later, checked and little more grease in the V of the boot. Cleaned it up this time with cleaner. Mechanic had punched a hole with a scribe.
Guess he figured next year on inspection, he would get to replace a drive shaft.
Toyota dealer pulled similar stunt on my 4X4. On free state inspection , they pulled a free all point maintenance list I never ask for. Told me battery was low on amperage.
Told them I would take care of it. About a month later, would not crank at work at 12AM. Wasn't battery. I finally jumped the interlock relay at relay in engine compartment basically hot wiring it to start in any gear.
Start circuit was cut out from switch on side of transmission. They had unplugged it and pushed it in just so it made contact and did not clip in. It had backed out. At first, I thought it had gone bad and was pulling it . Its up between transmission hump. When I was reaching up trying to get a 10MM socket on it, wire fell down.
I plugged it back in. Typical of most plug clips, there a pain to undo.
It was cristal clear what had happened. At the Toyota dealership, you can observe their work. After mechanic had inspection and changed the oil, a white shirt manager had walked under truck looking and reaching up. I assumed at the time checking for quality work.
That Toyota at the time were crooks all the way to the top.
Six months ago, I purchased a new Honda for my graduated student. Came with free oil and state inspection. It will only go back there if it's a warranty item.
Mobile 1 15,000 mile Oil and OEM filter are on my work bench. State inspection will be at a small shop with a bay door I can observe it. And when they pop the hood, there is a good chance they will have to say insurance restricts me there. So I shake my head OK till hood comes down. They have told me numerous times. I always politely back up really slow shaking my head OK.
