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Old Jun 14, 2021 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Quik
Is he gonna put it on the dyno?
nah im not paying 300 now and turn around and have to have it dynoed again in a few months when I upgrade the cam. lol

My 17 ran just fine with decatted headers and PV tuner. If its not the manifold or any other mechanical issue, I"ll see what the update map from FM does.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2021 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by teedoff65
nah im not paying 300 now and turn around and have to have it dynoed again in a few months when I upgrade the cam. lol

My 17 ran just fine with decatted headers and PV tuner. If its not the manifold or any other mechanical issue, I"ll see what the update map from FM does.
Yeah that makes sense
 
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Old Jun 14, 2021 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by teedoff65
Yeah he has it now. I'm just having him diagnose it. Someone suggested it might be a warped manifold. My buddy had a take off manifold that he gave me, so I'll take it to the dealer for that fix if that's the case.

Jesse still says it's the tune, so we'll see in a few days I guess.
Good luck. Hope you get it sorted out quickly!
 
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Old Jun 14, 2021 | 12:16 PM
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Good luck. Hope you get it sorted out quickly!
Thanks.

To add to this, I will say the main reason for decatting and installing those headers on was for heat. I added lower fairings with speakers last summer. Again, did the headers first of this year. I've been trying to think if I noticed the heat back then, and I don't think I do. Anyway, the bike runs REALLY hot now. I wear shorts sometimes and its almost unbearable. Just a short ride last weekend to my local dealer, and my right inside thigh was red and itching from the heat rash. I attributed the increase in heat to adding the lowers, but like I said, before the decatted headers, it wasn't this hot as far as I remember.

Starting to really point to the tune, or at least something causing the fuel to not burn off maybe.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2021 | 12:22 PM
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Might as well let Jesse throw a 128 in while he’s got it………guess I’m not much help huh, LoL
 
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Old Jun 14, 2021 | 12:30 PM
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Might as well let Jesse throw a 128 in while he’s got it………guess I’m not much help huh, LoL
lol I've heard that before.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2021 | 12:44 PM
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It sounds as if it's never been properly tuned. A copy of a tune is NOT a tune, I don't care who provided it for what combination.

Intake leak should be checked before beginning any tune.
 
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It sounds as if it's never been properly tuned. A copy of a tune is NOT a tune, I don't care who provided it for what combination.

Intake leak should be checked before beginning any tune.
I purchased the tune license from fuel moto since I already had the PV tuner when I did the cam in my 17. I provided them with the details of my new bike, stage 2 torque cam 114...all that jazz, and they provided me a tune based on my specs. The canned map I had for my 17 ran just fine, thought it ran a little rich....and for that reason I had it dynoed to get back my lost fuel mileage. Other than that, like i said it ran great.

Maybe the tune fm sent me was the incorrect one, or maybe I missed providing a certain bit of information to get the correct tune...either way, I have submitted a map request based on the tune that FM gave me that was auto tuned a few times trying to correct my issues. SO it was the latest corrected tune I had running.

A copy of a tune is NOT a tune, I don't care who provided it for what combination.
I didn't run a copy of a tune. I ran the tune FM sent me. I auto or smart tuned it a few times in hopes that would clear up my issues.
 
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Edited. Your bike could benefit from a good tune and check for intake leaks prior to tuning.
 

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Old Jun 14, 2021 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by teedoff65
Ever since I made the swap, the bike hasn't run very well. I thought it must be the limits on the SE tuner and or the torque cam. I even ran a couple of SE smart tunes, but it didn't improve the rough running.

So, I had the PV tuner nd thought I would go ahead and purchase the license to tune this bike, since eventually I'm going aftermarket cam anyway. I loaded the PV tune from FM and had hoped that would clear it up. It didn't.
Because the bike ran rough on both the appropriate SE tune as well as the FM tune there is a good chance there is an underlying issue, as some have noted a common contributor to rough running is a warped intake manifold. We sent an email earlier today we will need different logs as the logs supplied are corrupt (they are not delimited or formatted properly), as soon as you can get us more log data we're happy to take a look
 
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