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Old Jun 14, 2021 | 11:04 AM
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I’ve recently acquired a 2018 M8 Breakout. It’s done less than 1000 miles and has a stage 1 with big radius pipes.
for some reason the idle rises and falls in traffic or at junctions etc. It settles eventually but it’s a real pain when it fluctuates from normal idle speed to 1,300+ rpm with the throttle closed.
my local dealer keeps trying to hint that it’s ‘normal’. Surely it can’t be??
then they suggested an FP3 tuner might fix it. They supposedly fitted one but before i was a mile away from collecting the bike from them after they’d ‘fixed’ it, it was doing exactly the same thing.
Anybody had the same issue/had it fixed?
 
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Old Jun 14, 2021 | 11:09 AM
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Hi folks,
I’ve recently acquired a 2018 M8 Breakout. It’s done less than 1000 miles and has a stage 1 with big radius pipes.
for some reason the idle rises and falls in traffic or at junctions etc. It settles eventually but it’s a real pain when it fluctuates from normal idle speed to 1,300+ rpm with the throttle closed.
my local dealer keeps trying to hint that it’s ‘normal’. Surely it can’t be??
then they suggested an FP3 tuner might fix it. They supposedly fitted one but before i was a mile away from collecting the bike from them after they’d ‘fixed’ it, it was doing exactly the same thing.
Anybody had the same issue/had it fixed?
well you say Stage 1 so assume it has the AC upgraded..first thing I would check is around there for any leaks, manifold, etc..make sure it's all buttoned up securely..intake leak can cause erratic idle..but could be electronic too, among other things
 
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Old Jun 14, 2021 | 11:10 AM
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hey bud it is called etims. you turn it off with the throttle rocking it forward until the cruise light blinks.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2021 | 11:32 AM
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hey bud it is called etims. you turn it off with the throttle rocking it forward until the cruise light blinks.
I thought eitms was only on touring models but could be wrong, haven't owned a Softail M8.. besides, eitms is set to idle at 1050, ~100 more rpms than normal idle..his is fluctuating erratically to 1300 so there's that
 
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Old Jun 14, 2021 | 11:34 AM
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If the bike has a stage 1 did you find out how the mixture was set for higher air flow? ECM remap, dyno, etc.

See if there is any codes stored.

If it is not a leak on the intake side see if there is a problem with the idle air controller or whatever it is called on your bike.

Operation When engine temperature reaches a pre*determined point, the EITMS will turn off the rear cylinder fuel injector. Idle speed will be maintained; however, the rear cylinder will become an “air pump” which will work to cool the engine.
 

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Originally Posted by mjwebb
well you say Stage 1 so assume it has the AC upgraded..first thing I would check is around there for any leaks, manifold, etc..make sure it's all buttoned up securely..intake leak can cause erratic idle..but could be electronic too, among other things
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EITMS is on every bike I believe except for a sportster. My 17 softail has it too.
 
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Originally Posted by Andy from Sandy
If the bike has a stage 1 did you find out how the mixture was set for higher air flow? ECM remap, dyno, etc.

See if there is any codes stored.

If it is not a leak on the intake side see if there is a problem with the idle air controller or whatever it is called on your bike.
It's his EITMS not anything else. Simply turn it off or leave with it running on one cylinder at a light.
 
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EITMS: Idle speed will be maintained. That suggests the idle speed shouldn't keep going up and down doesn't it?
 
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EITMS: Idle speed will be maintained. That suggests the idle speed shouldn't keep going up and down doesn't it?
my eitms has always behaved stable, 1050 rpms, not erratic up and down to 1300+ rpms and I've had it on bikes since its inception
 
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