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Not sure if it's related. I stop at the same convenience store each morning heading to work. I always park in the same few spots in the lot on the same side of the store. One morning I pulled in and it was a fullhouse...no where to park except on the other side of the building. When I came out the bike would not start and the alarm started going off like it wasn't recognizing the fob. I replace my fob batteries every season. I carry spares just in case and the didn't help. After about 10 minutes of trying all I could think of this guy walks over and says try rolling it away from the building. That was it...there must be enough radio interference from the stores own alarms or satellites on the roof...something. Never parked on that side again and never had that issue anywhere again.
sounds like it happens fairly frequently, maybe reproducible? tell them you want them to keep it for a week or two and take it out every day for a ride...would it likely happen in that timeframe based on the frequency of occurrence for you?
Each time the first dealership kept for a week and nothing. The second dealership which is 2hrs away from where I live acted like they didn't want to keep it. I went prepared to leave it with them. In fact they told me they don't get paid to diagnose a bike problems only if they are fixing it. I told them it acted up around a 200mile ride it didn't do it in 15miles. They said if I wanted to pay their tech 25.00 an hour to ride it long enough to act up they would let me.
Each time the first dealership kept for a week and nothing. The second dealership which is 2hrs away from where I live acted like they didn't want to keep it. I went prepared to leave it with them. In fact they told me they don't get paid to diagnose a bike problems only if they are fixing it. I told them it acted up around a 200mile ride it didn't do it in 15miles. They said if I wanted to pay their tech 25.00 an hour to ride it long enough to act up they would let me.
here's what you do..escalate..the process is documented in your Owners Manual in which they state if you do not receive satisfactory resolution to your problems going through the normal channels first (which you have), report to Customer Care and they will open a trouble ticket and assign to dealership and assist with further tech support advice, recommendations, etc. I have done this successfully before and all of a sudden when the dealership realizes Big Brother is now involved they take it much more serious..good luck, sorry you're getting a BS runaround on your brand new expensive machine, unacceptable and they should bend over backwards to do everything possible...good idea to take DTC pics from phone when they pop up to show them it's 'real'.
Each time the first dealership kept for a week and nothing. The second dealership which is 2hrs away from where I live acted like they didn't want to keep it. I went prepared to leave it with them. In fact they told me they don't get paid to diagnose a bike problems only if they are fixing it. I told them it acted up around a 200mile ride it didn't do it in 15miles. They said if I wanted to pay their tech 25.00 an hour to ride it long enough to act up they would let me.
Originally Posted by mjwebb
here's what you do..escalate..the process is documented in your Owners Manual in which they state if you do not receive satisfactory resolution to your problems going through the normal channels first (which you have), report to Customer Care and they will open a trouble ticket and assign to dealership and assist with further tech support advice, recommendations, etc. I have done this successfully before and all of a sudden when the dealership realizes Big Brother is now involved they take it much more serious..good luck, sorry you're getting a BS runaround on your brand new expensive machine, unacceptable and they should bend over backwards to do everything possible...good idea to take DTC pics from phone when they pop up to show them it's 'real'.
here's what you do..escalate..the process is documented in your Owners Manual in which they state if you do not receive satisfactory resolution to your problems going through the normal channels first (which you have), report to Customer Care and they will open a trouble ticket and assign to dealership and assist with further tech support advice, recommendations, etc. I have done this successfully before and all of a sudden when the dealership realizes Big Brother is now involved they take it much more serious..good luck, sorry you're getting a BS runaround on your brand new expensive machine, unacceptable and they should bend over backwards to do everything possible...good idea to take DTC pics from phone when they pop up to show them it's 'real'.
This is actually what I'm doing. Plus I've already called customer service and a file started. It's stupid how the dealership says they can't use c1034h and the c1100h because they say it's history codes. I have worked on card for years and use diagnostic tools and those codes are there for a reason. The second dealership that looked at bike said since it had 140miles on the bike since it stored the code it was invalid. I told them it BS. Then they even tried saying I could have hit some loose gravel in the road way. I tried telling them if the system is working the way it should I wouldn't think it would store a code something was wrong with the system. I mean my Z71 4x4 doesn't if the tires spin.
Not sure if it's related. I stop at the same convenience store each morning heading to work. I always park in the same few spots in the lot on the same side of the store. One morning I pulled in and it was a fullhouse...no where to park except on the other side of the building. When I came out the bike would not start and the alarm started going off like it wasn't recognizing the fob. I replace my fob batteries every season. I carry spares just in case and the didn't help. After about 10 minutes of trying all I could think of this guy walks over and says try rolling it away from the building. That was it...there must be enough radio interference from the stores own alarms or satellites on the roof...something. Never parked on that side again and never had that issue anywhere again.
If that is true it is scary at the very least. If the RF emitted from that building is strong enough to confound a vehicles ECM is indicative of really powerful radio-jamming software controlled by whatever is in the building. I would be sure it repeats, and if it does, notify the FBI.
In no way should normal alarm systems be capable of jamming vehicle communications.
Bob
Dec 2021 11,900 miles Bike ran fine with codes showing.
ECM Codes
P1511H
P1600H
P2100H
Jan 2022
Was sitting at a light and the hot "H" light came on. Pulled away from light at what seemed like half power/one cylinder. Power came back within seconds. No reason for "H" light that day. It was 58* and trying to rain. No "H" light since.
March 2022 16,580 miles
Bike would not restart after sitting for a couple minutes. I had ridden about 100 miles then stopped to get rid of some clothes. Nothing, starter wouldn't engage. Starter button was dead! Threw my FOB a few feet away and tried my PIN. No luck! Was going to call for a tow when I tried to start it one more time. It fired with no issues. The wait before it re-fired was about 10-15 min.
ECM Codes
P1100H
P1511H
P1600H
P2100H
P2105H
ABS code
C1100H
On March 18, 2022 dealer Tech updated/recalibrated the ECM. The Tech said one code was for a hard shutdown (whatever that is). Bike has almost 18,000 miles on it now with no codes since 16,500. I had codes showing early in it's life also. I just cleared them waiting for them to return.
Bike is also backfiring through the intake at times when trying to start (hot or cold). That still happens at times!
RF interference didn't have anything to do with the codes I got. I didn't trust COVID electronics before I bought this '21 and still don't! lol...
Bike is a 2021 Road Glide Special mileage at 1200 and for some weird reason, bike is getting EMC and ABS DTC codes and it has happened twice at the same gas station Chevron gas station after taking on fuel. Bike typically will refuse to start and no matter if I shut and ignition switch to on or off. On checking DTC, these are the codes that bike shows:
First incident May 29, 2021 ECM - P1100h, P1511h, P1600h, P2100h, P2105h and ABS - C1100h (First incident shows "h" at each of the codes)
Second incident August 6, 2021 ECM - P1100c, P1511c, P1600c, P2100c, P2105c and ABS - C110c (Second incident shows "c" at each of the codes)
Dealer says unless they actually see it at the show, they cant do much and to start the bike and get home, I need to clear the codes and all I can do is take a photo as proof. Anyone here experienced these intermittent codes? If you did what was the fix, I am thinking perhaps wiring issue or component that is being impacted when the bike heats to operating temperature, or could it be the fuel at the Chevron gas station or some sort if RF energy zapping the bike EMC not sure but just trying to make some sense on the new 21 M8.
By the way, bike is bone stock.
I've got a 22 SG special that I bought with 1 mile on it and jus today, I had the same codes thrown. In addition to 2122&2127. Have u had any luck in finding the root of the issue. I'd be appreciative to know.
I've got a 22 SG special that I bought with 1 mile on it and jus today, I had the same codes thrown. In addition to 2122&2127. Have u had any luck in finding the root of the issue. I'd be appreciative to know.
Welcome to HDForums, from Michigan. Curious, what did your dealer say?
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