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Old May 3, 2022 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dillbilly Bone
Before deciding to go stage 2, I was at stage I with the HD Ventilator Air Cleaner and Khrome Werks HP-Plus 4.50 mufflers. Tuner is of course the HD SE Pro Tuner. The dealer that built my bike did that work. Through Fuel Moto I'm going with their Jackpot 2-1-2 Stainless Head Pipe. I've heard both opinions on change/don't change head pipes, and I felt like a stage 2 with the stock headers would have me always thinking I'd left TQ and HP on the table. I'll be keeping the Ventilator AC as Fuel Moto said it was excellent and any gains from changing to another AC would be very minimal for my setup. Wood 22XE cam, Wood lifters, FM adjustable push rods. I'm adding a set of the S&S Billet Tappet Cuffs to replace the stock HD plastic pieces. FM straight up told me to keep my KW mufflers, which now have the KW Torque Monster Inserts in them. I'm counting on the big 4.5 pipes and those db-reducing inserts to balance out the increased volume of the no-cat head pipe. Finally, FM assured me they had a spot-on map for the Power Vision Dyno Jet tuner and my overall specs, including RDRS. There was zero hesitancy from Bob at Fuel Moto and I came away from the conversation feeling extremely confident. The package price of the items below, plus the head pipe (not shown) came to just over $1800 with shipping.




Everyone has their own preferences and methods. All I could suggest to you (based on my very limited experience) is to contact a well known and trusted engine builder or tuner for your questions. I could not be more pleased with or trusting of a company than Fuel Moto. I believe your Street Cannons are very good and I see no reason not to keep them.
I would appreciate hearing how your install went. I am looking at do the same set up with S&S MK45s. I was considering doing the S&S cam plate and pump but now reconsidering sticking with stock. My SGS is a 2021. I am also looking at Dark Horse Man O War compensator and Hayden primary chain tensioner and possibly Rekluse torque clutch pack.
 
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Old May 4, 2022 | 04:52 AM
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My install is going nicely thus far. I'm taking all due time and effort to get it right. Yesterday I opened up the cam chest and removed the cam chain tensioner, both sprockets and chain, cam plate and oil pump, push rods, lifters, the cam, tappet covers and tappet guides. I did a close inspection of everything. Following that I pulled the inner cam bearing and installed a new one. Work will continue later today and I plan to have all the new stuff (cam, Wood lifters, adjustable push rods, o-rings, billet tappet cuffs and so on) installed and the cam chest closed.

I advised 'my' tech at Fuel Moto of all the changes and mods happening. I inquired about an upgraded oil pump and cam plate a la S&S and he advised me I would be essentially spending extra money to buy something I wouldn't benefit from. My bike is a 2020 and H-D corrected the oil pump issue common to the bikes just a couple years older. An upgraded clutch is something I dismissed rather easily, simply because I know I'm not hard on my clutch or transmission. I don't mind running through gears pretty hard once in a while, but I'm not constantly stressing things. Even with the increased Stage II performance (including Jackpot head pipe and Dyno Jet tune) I won't be at a place...torque and horsepower... where I need a stronger clutch. At least that's what all my research has determined.
 
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Old May 4, 2022 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Dillbilly Bone
My install is going nicely thus far. I'm taking all due time and effort to get it right. Yesterday I opened up the cam chest and removed the cam chain tensioner, both sprockets and chain, cam plate and oil pump, push rods, lifters, the cam, tappet covers and tappet guides. I did a close inspection of everything. Following that I pulled the inner cam bearing and installed a new one. Work will continue later today and I plan to have all the new stuff (cam, Wood lifters, adjustable push rods, o-rings, billet tappet cuffs and so on) installed and the cam chest closed.

I advised 'my' tech at Fuel Moto of all the changes and mods happening. I inquired about an upgraded oil pump and cam plate a la S&S and he advised me I would be essentially spending extra money to buy something I wouldn't benefit from. My bike is a 2020 and H-D corrected the oil pump issue common to the bikes just a couple years older. An upgraded clutch is something I dismissed rather easily, simply because I know I'm not hard on my clutch or transmission. I don't mind running through gears pretty hard once in a while, but I'm not constantly stressing things. Even with the increased Stage II performance (including Jackpot head pipe and Dyno Jet tune) I won't be at a place...torque and horsepower... where I need a stronger clutch. At least that's what all my research has determined.
Just so you are aware, HD corrected and replaced the oil pump issues in May of 2019...from that point on all are latest 8-lobe pumps...
 
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Old May 4, 2022 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bradsULtd
Just so you are aware, HD corrected and replaced the oil pump issues in May of 2019...from that point on all are latest 8-lobe pumps...
I was aware of the original problems, and also aware that H-D had taken corrective action. Wasn't aware of the exact month...good knowledge to have. Anyway, that didn't stop me from inquiring whether an aftermarket pump (Feuling or S&S) was worthwhile for my 2020.
 
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