S&s 465 vs se 447
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Here is my 114 with the S&S 475 cam, I have the Side winder running the Tq Cone in the rear, bike pulls awesome, never failed and will also pull from 1600 rpm's without shifting in the Mtns. when you get caught in a tight up hill turns sometimes. You may also want to spen some money on a dyno tune as well, take care.
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CR480 is the right cam for what youre looking for, I think your issue is tune or pipe. Its amazing the difference the right or wrong pipe can make. Im leaning towards the tune though. From personal experience, a canned tuned from FM with auto tune sessions will never be optimal. Those tunes are to get you to the dyno IMO. Ive compared the fuel and timing tables with those auto tuned canned maps vs post dyno tune and its always quite a lot different. That should be expected because every bike and combo is unique. You could change the cam and fix a problem that doesnt exist aka be right where you are now. Just my .02
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If I recall correctly it was 103 hp/118 tq. The 465 sacrifices some top end hp for better low-end torque, which I think is what you're after.
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Torque cones, you mean the supplied DB reducers? Yes, I plan on getting it dynoed, but the nearest one is 150 miles away, so it’s gotta wait.
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CR480 is the right cam for what you’re looking for, I think your issue is tune or pipe. It’s amazing the difference the right or wrong pipe can make. I’m leaning towards the tune though. From personal experience, a canned tuned from FM with auto tune sessions will never be optimal. Those tunes are to get you to the dyno IMO. I’ve compared the fuel and timing tables with those auto tuned canned maps vs post dyno tune and it’s always quite a lot different. That should be expected because every bike and combo is unique. You could change the cam and fix a problem that doesn’t exist aka be right where you are now. Just my .02
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yeah, kinda disappointed in the PV 4, cant really do too much with it.
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numbers sound good, but as I understand it, that cam is done by 37-4000 rpm. No?
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I don't really get hung up on the raw numbers like many seem to; if the butt dyno tells me it's good I'm satisfied.
