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Thanks! I will probably start accumulating parts and do as you mentioned. Bruce
The HD oem lifters suck, not only do they bleed down resulting in cold rattle, but the roller surfaces frost and also damage the cam lobes. Even the service manual says frosting is normal and is just cosmetic, which is BS, good aftermarket lifters dont do that.
I have a 17 RG with a build date 8-16, and like you I kept it stock for long haul.
When I replaced lifters I bought a low to no mileage stock cam in new condition off EBay for $15, search for 25400190
I bought a 2020 CVO Road Glide new 5 years ago and immediately had the lifters changed to Delphi. They always ticked for a few seconds on cold starts but they were in the bike for 150,000 miles. I had them swapped at that point just to be safe but couldn't find the same units. So, I went with Feuling HP+. Those also tick for a few seconds on cold starts but have been in the bike for 50,000 miles now. I'd recommend either one, though the Delphi may be hard to find for some reason.
The HD oem lifters suck, not only do they bleed down resulting in cold rattle, but the roller surfaces frost and also damage the cam lobes. Even the service manual says frosting is normal and is just cosmetic, which is BS, good aftermarket lifters dont do that.
I have a 17 RG with a build date 8-16, and like you I kept it stock for long haul.
When I replaced lifters I bought a low to no mileage stock cam in new condition off EBay for $15, search for 25400190
Thanks, I hope to reuse the cam but if not, will be looking for a stock unit. Thanks!
I bought a 2020 CVO Road Glide new 5 years ago and immediately had the lifters changed to Delphi. They always ticked for a few seconds on cold starts but they were in the bike for 150,000 miles. I had them swapped at that point just to be safe but couldn't find the same units. So, I went with Feuling HP+. Those also tick for a few seconds on cold starts but have been in the bike for 50,000 miles now. I'd recommend either one, though the Delphi may be hard to find for some reason.
Thanks, first Ive heard about Delphi lifters. Was just online looking at Comp Cams 850-4. Will check out Feuling.
The HD oem lifters suck, not only do they bleed down resulting in cold rattle, but the roller surfaces frost and also damage the cam lobes. Even the service manual says frosting is normal and is just cosmetic, which is BS, good aftermarket lifters dont do that.
I have a 17 RG with a build date 8-16, and like you I kept it stock for long haul.
When I replaced lifters I bought a low to no mileage stock cam in new condition off EBay for $15, search for 25400190
At what mileage did you replace the lifters? Any other issues? Sumping?
You mentioned you are a previous Goldwing owner, so I have to ask:
Can you imagine contemplating rebuilding an engine on a 2017 Honda Goldwing with only 28,000 miles? Especially considering it would be the prior generation to the 2018 and newer 1833cc? I mean, those things are damn near bulletproof.
I'm surprised you're even considering rebuilding it, if it's running okay. If you suspect you made an error on your bike choice, just trade it for another goldwing and call it a "Lesson Learned". I can't make sense out of why you'd pour more money into a loser, unless you just need an excuse to do some engine work.. If you're happy with it as it is, then ride it and dont worry.
I'm not bashing the Harley brand, I'm just sorry you're so worried about engine failure on an already expensive bike, after overcoming a Goldwinger's obvious trepidation about switching from a GL to a Harley. You made the choice...ride it and stop worrying...or go back to a Wing ( but I've heard of recalls and techy glitches on those 2018+s!).
You mentioned you are a previous Goldwing owner, so I have to ask:
Can you imagine contemplating rebuilding an engine on a 2017 Honda Goldwing with only 28,000 miles? Especially considering it would be the prior generation to the 2018 and newer 1833cc? I mean, those things are damn near bulletproof.
I'm surprised you're even considering rebuilding it, if it's running okay. If you suspect you made an error on your bike choice, just trade it for another goldwing and call it a "Lesson Learned". I can't make sense out of why you'd pour more money into a loser, unless you just need an excuse to do some engine work.. If you're happy with it as it is, then ride it and dont worry.
I'm not bashing the Harley brand, I'm just sorry you're so worried about engine failure on an already expensive bike, after overcoming a Goldwinger's obvious trepidation about switching from a GL to a Harley. You made the choice...ride it and stop worrying...or go back to a Wing ( but I've heard of recalls and techy glitches on those 2018+s!).
Sorry but I didnt mention in my original post that I also own a 2009 GL1800 that I have had since 2015. Lots of miles including towing a trailer through 15 states out west a few years back.
Dont want to start another debate on Wings vs Harleys but for me the Harley is different, maybe a better feel, back to raw motorcycling kind of thing.
I want keep this bike and if that means throwing some parts at it to ensure it survives in the long run, so be it.
True, If my wing needed this kind of attention at 28k I would have gotten rid of it a long time ago.
One huge difference between the 2 bikes is that the glide is so damn easy to work on and get to stuff like the oil pump.
Bruce
Sorry but I didnt mention in my original post that I also own a 2009 GL1800 that I have had since 2015. Lots of miles including towing a trailer through 15 states out west a few years back.
Dont want to start another debate on Wings vs Harleys but for me the Harley is different, maybe a better feel, back to raw motorcycling kind of thing.
I want keep this bike and if that means throwing some parts at it to ensure it survives in the long run, so be it.
True, If my wing needed this kind of attention at 28k I would have gotten rid of it a long time ago.
One huge difference between the 2 bikes is that the glide is so damn easy to work on and get to stuff like the oil pump.
Bruce
Yeah, that's basically what I meant. I know all about just trading bikes for something new or different...guilty as charged. A "5th generation" Goldwing may not be as exciting as a Harley, but holy crap...they're reliable. If you're just pulling preventative maintenance for the long haul on your Harley, I get that. Tearing into the engine and replacing bearings and lifters is a little more than "routine maintenance", to me. I'm just glad you're okay with going so far with it, (as I see you seem to be).
One thing about your Harley: It only takes 5 minutes to replace your air filter on the Harley...you probably know that's a 2 hour job on a wing!
Sorry but I didnt mention in my original post that I also own a 2009 GL1800 that I have had since 2015. Lots of miles including towing a trailer through 15 states out west a few years back.
Dont want to start another debate on Wings vs Harleys but for me the Harley is different, maybe a better feel, back to raw motorcycling kind of thing.
I want keep this bike and if that means throwing some parts at it to ensure it survives in the long run, so be it.
True, If my wing needed this kind of attention at 28k I would have gotten rid of it a long time ago.
One huge difference between the 2 bikes is that the glide is so damn easy to work on and get to stuff like the oil pump.
Bruce
but that does not ensure it survives is the point some are making..it does ensure you will be spending with no certainly you added value, while possible that in doing so you introduce some unintended consequences .. but as you say, so be it, and you got some well rounded information you were seeking and will make an educated decision so
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