Early build M8
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Early build M8
Hello All,
1st time poster but long time student and I appreciate all that I have learned from this group. I have a 2017 RGU (Apr 2017 build). Bought this bike after years of Goldwings. This Road Glide has been awesome! Recently returned from a trip from Tampa to Maine and the bike was flawless save for the occasional lifter tap on cold mornings. I do all of my own wrenching and am pretty particular. As I have said, this is a Apr 2017 build and at 28000 miles, am starting to get nervous given all I have read about bad oil pumps, lifters, cuffs, etc, etc, etc. I recently followed the HD sumping service bulletin and got maybe 2 drops of oil out of the crankshaft position sensor. I plan on keeping this bike for a while. Have added whim, CB, GTS radio, XM among other goodies. Never have been interested in horse power or where on the tach is the best torque. Just want a bullet proof long distance machine. All of this being said, what is the consensus here? Upgrade oil pump? Lifters? Cuffs? Do nothing? Curious what you think. Thanks Bruce
1st time poster but long time student and I appreciate all that I have learned from this group. I have a 2017 RGU (Apr 2017 build). Bought this bike after years of Goldwings. This Road Glide has been awesome! Recently returned from a trip from Tampa to Maine and the bike was flawless save for the occasional lifter tap on cold mornings. I do all of my own wrenching and am pretty particular. As I have said, this is a Apr 2017 build and at 28000 miles, am starting to get nervous given all I have read about bad oil pumps, lifters, cuffs, etc, etc, etc. I recently followed the HD sumping service bulletin and got maybe 2 drops of oil out of the crankshaft position sensor. I plan on keeping this bike for a while. Have added whim, CB, GTS radio, XM among other goodies. Never have been interested in horse power or where on the tach is the best torque. Just want a bullet proof long distance machine. All of this being said, what is the consensus here? Upgrade oil pump? Lifters? Cuffs? Do nothing? Curious what you think. Thanks Bruce
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Hello All,
1st time poster but long time student and I appreciate all that I have learned from this group. I have a 2017 RGU (Apr 2017 build). Bought this bike after years of Goldwings. This Road Glide has been awesome! Recently returned from a trip from Tampa to Maine and the bike was flawless save for the occasional lifter tap on cold mornings. I do all of my own wrenching and am pretty particular. As I have said, this is a Apr 2017 build and at 28000 miles, am starting to get nervous given all I have read about bad oil pumps, lifters, cuffs, etc, etc, etc. I recently followed the HD sumping service bulletin and got maybe 2 drops of oil out of the crankshaft position sensor. I plan on keeping this bike for a while. Have added whim, CB, GTS radio, XM among other goodies. Never have been interested in horse power or where on the tach is the best torque. Just want a bullet proof long distance machine. All of this being said, what is the consensus here? Upgrade oil pump? Lifters? Cuffs? Do nothing? Curious what you think. Thanks Bruce
1st time poster but long time student and I appreciate all that I have learned from this group. I have a 2017 RGU (Apr 2017 build). Bought this bike after years of Goldwings. This Road Glide has been awesome! Recently returned from a trip from Tampa to Maine and the bike was flawless save for the occasional lifter tap on cold mornings. I do all of my own wrenching and am pretty particular. As I have said, this is a Apr 2017 build and at 28000 miles, am starting to get nervous given all I have read about bad oil pumps, lifters, cuffs, etc, etc, etc. I recently followed the HD sumping service bulletin and got maybe 2 drops of oil out of the crankshaft position sensor. I plan on keeping this bike for a while. Have added whim, CB, GTS radio, XM among other goodies. Never have been interested in horse power or where on the tach is the best torque. Just want a bullet proof long distance machine. All of this being said, what is the consensus here? Upgrade oil pump? Lifters? Cuffs? Do nothing? Curious what you think. Thanks Bruce
Otherwise my vote is 'do nothing', other than to ride the heck out of it, service appropriately and just continue to enjoy it since it's been treating you well. Worrying about something that hasn't happened is like paying a bill you don't owe
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I am a firm believer in getting ahead of potential issues before they occur. With your mileage, I would consider the following since you plan on keeping the bike. This would be an economical approach since you aren't looking for more performance.
Upgrade to latest Harley oil pump
New cam bearing and cam chain tensioner
New lifters
Upgrade to latest Harley oil pump
New cam bearing and cam chain tensioner
New lifters
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I am a firm believer in getting ahead of potential issues before they occur. With your mileage, I would consider the following since you plan on keeping the bike. This would be an economical approach since you aren't looking for more performance.
Upgrade to latest Harley oil pump
New cam bearing and cam chain tensioner
New lifters
Upgrade to latest Harley oil pump
New cam bearing and cam chain tensioner
New lifters
and OP says he does all his own wrenching..hopefully wouldn't experience this, which have seen many threads here over the years of happening to DIY owners..
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/milwa...o-cost-me.html
at the end of the day whichever way you go it all comes down to
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At 28K I would probably do nothing in your case. Me? I like to change things so it would be time for an aftermarket cam, the 2020 pump, cam bearing and some bitchin' exhaust.
It's like getting a new bike
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Thanks for the advice, I added the vent for the transfer issue. I didn’t want to go thru the dealer nonsense with checking the level then coming back to see if it transferred. I knew it was transferring and as cheap as the kit was, I just did it myself.
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If you just want to do failure prevention, I would agree with lifters, oil pump, and cam bearing if you have to remove the cam. Lifters, I would use CompCams 85001 lifters, they are $38.95 ea. Oil pump will cost around $170. Cam bearing is less than $20. What some haven't mentioned is pushrods. You can do it without adjustable pushrods, but it makes it much easier and quicker. They can run from $180 - $350. I wouldn't bother with lifter cuffs, the plastic ones seem to hold up just fine. Haven't heard of them failing yet. So you are looking at $500 to maybe $700. If you can afford it and have the time to do it, then it you might want to. But like mjwebb said, you might ride to 100K miles with no problems. The fact that it has made it to 28,000 miles with no major problems actually makes it more likely it will continue to be trouble free, but is after all a machine. You could do these upgrades and have problems elsewhere. So any way you look at it, it is a roll of the dice.
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6th Gear
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If you just want to do failure prevention, I would agree with lifters, oil pump, and cam bearing if you have to remove the cam. Lifters, I would use CompCams 85001 lifters, they are $38.95 ea. Oil pump will cost around $170. Cam bearing is less than $20. What some haven't mentioned is pushrods. You can do it without adjustable pushrods, but it makes it much easier and quicker. They can run from $180 - $350. I wouldn't bother with lifter cuffs, the plastic ones seem to hold up just fine. Haven't heard of them failing yet. So you are looking at $500 to maybe $700. If you can afford it and have the time to do it, then it you might want to. But like mjwebb said, you might ride to 100K miles with no problems. The fact that it has made it to 28,000 miles with no major problems actually makes it more likely it will continue to be trouble free, but is after all a machine. You could do these upgrades and have problems elsewhere. So any way you look at it, it is a roll of the dice.
