SYN 3 is CRAP!!!!!!!
Big Kahuna HDF Member
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RE: SYN 3 is CRAP!!!!!!!
Well, you changed my mind.......I just ran down to the docks and picked up a 5 quart vat of whalezoil 20w50......I'm dumping the Redline tomorrow.......
ORIGINAL: sedbiker62
I'm not trying to change your mind, you should use what you're comfortable with. But keep in mind that once upon a time, the best lubricant out there was vegetable oil, or whale oil.
Steve[sm=icon_rock.gif]
I'm not trying to change your mind, you should use what you're comfortable with. But keep in mind that once upon a time, the best lubricant out there was vegetable oil, or whale oil.
Steve[sm=icon_rock.gif]
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Ive tried amsoil also...shifts better in trans and engine seemed to run smother...then i read about it being too good and causing bearing skate...ie rollers actually scooting and not rolling causing excessive wear.....scared the crap outta me.......
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RE: SYN 3 is CRAP!!!!!!!
ORIGINAL: sgreen1456
Ive tried amsoil also...shifts better in trans and engine seemed to run smother...then i read about it being too good and causing bearing skate...ie rollers actually scooting and not rolling causing excessive wear.....scared the crap outta me.......
Ive tried amsoil also...shifts better in trans and engine seemed to run smother...then i read about it being too good and causing bearing skate...ie rollers actually scooting and not rolling causing excessive wear.....scared the crap outta me.......
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I maintained and raced cars in the SCCA for many years. My own was an old Super V that ran in the Formula Continental class. The engine was the VW Type IV air cooled four cylinder. That engine ran for years under horrific conditions at RPMs in 8000 range with occasional ventures as high as 9000. Over the years I had made the switch from petrol to syn lubes as the synthetics became more reliable and safer. I can say from personal experience that from the stand point of overall protection there is no comparison. I have seen engines that suffered a oil hose failure, and consequent loss of oil pressure, show very little damage or wear on tear down. In addition to better bearing and ring cooling provided by good synthetic, the reduce friction effectively raises the available horspower. As expensive as Harley parts are I can't afford not to run Synthetics. As far as what goes where. Many bikes have a common sump for the engine and drive train. Obviously, the one oil used works. In our bikes, we have three separate units, giving us options. I personally like the heavy lube in the gear box because it quiets the straight cut gears. I do use the same oil in the primary as the engine. I also believe that running an appropriate eng syn in all three is just as safe, just not as quiet.
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I love the "oil" topics...lol Anyway, I too had the Syn3 in my ride....all 3 holes. Bike sounded like a coffee can full of marbles and the temp was constantly at 250+. After much reading here, I finally went with Amsoil in the engine, and Redline in the tranny and primary. Mine runs MUCH smoother, and the temp runs about 225 consistantly. Bike is much more quiet, and the tranny shifts great.
Run what YOU like and what YOU are comfortable with.....but Ive "been there, done that" and no more Syn3 for me.
Many thanks to those of you who set me on the path!
Run what YOU like and what YOU are comfortable with.....but Ive "been there, done that" and no more Syn3 for me.
Many thanks to those of you who set me on the path!
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From: Grand Island , New York
RE: SYN 3 is CRAP!!!!!!!
Exactally what I use , good choice, syn is a bit pricey but I like nothing but the best in my baby.
ORIGINAL: 2005UltraNC
Best combo I found:
Mobile 1 V-Twin in engine
Formula+ in primary
Mobile 1 Syn 75W90 in trans
I agree that the Syn 3 is crap. But, I'm in a hot climate and could not risk a dino oil.
Best combo I found:
Mobile 1 V-Twin in engine
Formula+ in primary
Mobile 1 Syn 75W90 in trans
I agree that the Syn 3 is crap. But, I'm in a hot climate and could not risk a dino oil.
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syn oils like mobil 1 and amsoil start with natural gas as a feed stock. can't start with less than CH4.that is a one link hydrocorbon chain.Then they link them all together to make the size they want. dino oil is like having a coffee can with bb's, marbels, buckshot. pour it on the floor and step on them and you will slip and bust your a$$. fill the can with #4 shot and pout it on the floor and you will slip and bust your a$$ faster because you have a more uniformfilm of bearings on the sole of.your shoe. you may have smaller size mol. but a stronger film of oil which translates to faster oiling at startup, and free flowing oil all the time. a thin uniform oil film is better than a mix of marbels, bb's and buckshot. YMMV