Powdercoat & Paint A place to discuss everything about powder coat and paint for your Harley.

Bike Painters Please HELP!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 6, 2013 | 06:04 AM
  #21  
EveHD's Avatar
EveHD
Moderatress
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 8,427
Likes: 29
From: Dutchess County, NY
Default

Originally Posted by Crazy Horse
Most reputable shops (shops that do very good high quality work that will win shows and is very durable) that I know of will charge between $5000-6500 to paint an Ultra, a two tone with fairly complex graphics and that is true of my shop also. And that price usually includes the lowers and the inner fairing.
Yes most of us are small shops.
Pigpipes gave some great advice, I too have seen good and bad work at both ends of the price spectrum. You definately want to see pictures of the work they have done and hopefully they have painted some dressers. Its always great to see the actual finished product in person. You can definately see the real quality of a paint job when its right in front of you. Like if they used enough clear and you can't feel any paint edge around any artwork. And you can see the quality of the finish, if it has a smooth glassy finish or if its got a little orange peel to it. And hopefully if its a display piece that the painter has, you can touch it and see how hard the paint is. I like to have new paint and old paint I did years ago on display. The customer can touch them. Old paint is handy to have around as you can see how the paint had aged. especially if the part was run for years on a bike before it was replaced. Some of my customers have given me a piece of their old sheetmetal when they replaced a tank or fender.


We are finishing up painting an Ultra with extended bags and this is what I would call a somewhat complex job, a little more than a straight two tone. Just to give you an idea what's involved with painting a dresser. There are 20 parts in this job, tank, 2 fenders, 2 saddlebag lids, 2 extended saddlebags, 2 sidecovers, trunk, trunk lid, rear fender extention, fairing, inner faring, small piece that goes with the inner fairing, 4 pieces for the lower fairings, and liscence plate frame. I took a picture the other day after i moved the parts out of the shop. These are just the parts that have graphics on them, the trunk also has graphics but there wasn't enough room on the board for it here. There are even more parts like the lids that are just orange and the lowers that are just black.


The bike was originally a 2 tone, and the new paint is a candy two tone with graphics, so most of the old paint had to be removed from the parts because if its not, over time, the old pinstripe will "ghost" back through the paint.
The process is, first the parts have to be cleaned thoroughly of any wax or silicone. Then the old paint is removed completely from the metal parts, and sanded down on the other parts. Then everything is primed and sanded.
can you imagine how much time it takes to sand 20 parts?


The trunk is a total pain to sand as it is not flat on the bottom but has all kinds of ridges. And you can't just rush through sanding and its very easy to sand through all those little edges on the trunk, bags and lids. And if shortcuts are taken with sanding and the little crevasses are shiny and not sanded before they are painted, then eventually the paint will lift in those areas, not right away but 6 months down the road.
Then its basecoat, clearcoat, more sanding, then artwork and clearcoat, then more sanding and more clear. Then buffing all those parts.
Just the materials cost alone for a job like this can run $800 or more.

And if the paint job is properly done, the insides of the bags and trunk are masked off, so overspray won't get in there. And so there won't be a nasty big paint edge around the edges of the bags, that masking needs changed between primer and basecoat and final clear if you have artwork which requires extra clear.
CH - That is one kick *** paint job. Love it!
 
Reply
Old Mar 6, 2013 | 08:53 AM
  #22  
Spookygirl75's Avatar
Spookygirl75
Advanced
15 Year Member
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
From: Waxhaw, NC
Default

Originally Posted by EveHD
CH - That is one kick *** paint job. Love it!
Thanks Eve. My team and I put quite a bit into the paint jobs that go out of my shop and its great to get this kind of feedback on our work. That job is leaving the shop next week and once the customer gets the bike back together, I'll post pictures of the completed job in my album here. I can't wait to see the bike back together. I spend so much time seeing the parts individually, so its always such a great visual experience seeing everything back assembled on the bike.

We are designing another Ultra paint job for next month. I always try to make my jobs different from what's out there. Finding the most effective colors and designs, getting the most visual impact but still having a sleek elegant appearance. This next one I want to have fun with as the customer has picked an unusual color.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
eg2sol
Sportster Models
7
Dec 2, 2009 04:26 PM
DYNAMITE 1
Dyna Glide Models
40
Jul 18, 2009 07:33 PM
Skrimshaw
General Topics/Tech Tips
3
Apr 16, 2009 09:10 PM
toastedoat
Touring Models
25
Jan 19, 2008 09:29 AM
RoadKing62
Touring Models
17
Jul 14, 2007 11:23 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:48 AM.


Top

© 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

Follow Us        



When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.

story-0
6 Weirdest Harley-Davidsons Ever Sold to the Public

Slideshow: From military-inspired singles to scooters and three-wheel utility vehicles, these Harleys took the company far outside its comfort zone.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-02 18:34:10


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-6
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-7
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE