110 lifter
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110 lifter
So I am getting a new to me 2012 CVO ultra (blue) from a dealer on tuesday with 8k on it. I see the 110 has lifter issue that take out the engine when they go. I am getting the ESP for 4 yrs as well from HD. So should i replace the lifters anyway and/or did harley address the problem with a change. If I use a better one other than harley im sure it would void the ESP if it happens. just thinking ahead and also the bike is all stock as of now. thanks Jeff
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So I am getting a new to me 2012 CVO ultra (blue) from a dealer on tuesday with 8k on it. I see the 110 has lifter issue that take out the engine when they go. I am getting the ESP for 4 yrs as well from HD. So should i replace the lifters anyway and/or did harley address the problem with a change. If I use a better one other than harley im sure it would void the ESP if it happens. just thinking ahead and also the bike is all stock as of now. thanks Jeff
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understand how ESP works, if you experience a failure with a mechanical item in your engine, ESP will repair the damage. what they will not do is repair it as you may want, also they will not clean anything. so say you experience a lifter failure on your 110 and metal goes throughout you engine taking out the oil pump, cams, and various other items. perhaps it even cracks the lifter bore.
ESP will replace the half of the engine case that is cracked, the cams, oil pump and lifters along with all gaskets damaged during teardown , and any bearings that show damage upon inspection.
they have ZERO obligation to repair anything else. nor will they clean the oil pan, flush oil passages etc. you get the drift i hope.
so upon start up, if you have ANY metal anywhere in the engine or if any part were within service limits, like cam plate, cam chains etc, they are re used and the metail that was not cleaned out will circulate inside you freshly repaired engine under the theory that the oil filter is designed to catch this debris.
so now you have you 110 back after 4 to 6 weeks, irs got old and new parts inside and you off riding again until it happens again. got it?
if it happens under ESP, they cover again, if yoy have not modified, if it happens outside ESP, its your nickel.
so, should you replaced your lifters, your call. if the dealer does its HD lifters, if someone else does you get a better product.
your call. my opinion is biased.
Last edited by bigskyroadglide; Aug 24, 2017 at 08:06 AM.
I thought I was preventing more problems by having my heads done with AV&V springs, with new guides. At 23,500 miles. But...at 38,000 I had a spring break and ended up on a tow truck anyway.
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I know what I did....I keeping my springs and plan on changing out the lifters routinely. Johnson Hylifts are about $150 a set and with new gaskets maybe $200 total. I learned to do the work myself so it’s wouldn’t be too painful cost wise or mysterous.
The first time I did cam bearings and went with adjustable pushrods to make subsequent lifter changes a bit quicker.
The first time I did cam bearings and went with adjustable pushrods to make subsequent lifter changes a bit quicker.
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