Unbearable Clutch Chatter
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Unbearable Clutch Chatter
I have a 2009 CVO road glide. It has 32400 miles on it. I have owned it about a year. When you take off it clatters and shakes and sounds like some sort of slack in a gear or chain slappin around. IT is almost impossible to take off without this happening. The harder you try to ease the clutch the more it clatters. When you round a corner if you ease the throttle its fine. If you hammer the throttle it clatters like when you take off. SO it seems under load is when it has problems. I have changed the primary oil and everything on this bike is hydraulic/automatic adjusted. So how do I get rid of this? I thought I would learn the bike and it was just me. But after a year of riding I don't see that happening.
My first Harley. So far not a fan
My first Harley. So far not a fan
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I have found some similar posts of chatters and rattles but seemed as if they were more top end.
I just went out and held the front brake and eased out on the clutch while a friend had their head down by the motor. It started shaking and clattering and he said it sounded like it was coming from the transmission.
I have an appt. to take it to the nearest dealer this weekend. I will update when I know more.
I just went out and held the front brake and eased out on the clutch while a friend had their head down by the motor. It started shaking and clattering and he said it sounded like it was coming from the transmission.
I have an appt. to take it to the nearest dealer this weekend. I will update when I know more.
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My friends CVO Dana does that. He says it's some type of SE locking clutch. I have only drove it twice. First pull out for me stalled it. Sort of get it off the line rolling and dump it at enough rpm that you do not stall, and it's fine. Try to pull out slow and smoothly like I normally do mine and it's terrible. What did the face of the clutch look like when you had the derby cover off. Did it have 6 barrel looking cylinders on the face. The compensator if very weak may bang loudly if you pull out hard but would not chatter. It can never turn complete 360 and or do what you describe unless you were on and off the throttle in rapid motion.
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My friends CVO Dana does that. He says it's some type of SE locking clutch. I have only drove it twice. First pull out for me stalled it. Sort of get it off the line rolling and dump it at enough rpm that you do not stall, and it's fine. Try to pull out slow and smoothly like I normally do mine and it's terrible. What did the face of the clutch look like when you had the derby cover off. Did it have 6 barrel looking cylinders on the face. The compensator if very weak may bang loudly if you pull out hard but would not chatter. It can never turn complete 360 and or do what you describe unless you were on and off the throttle in rapid motion.
Mine is definitely a clatter. I would say "crak crak crak crak crak" maybe ????? 4-6 craks a second. If I hold the brake and don't take off, just load the engine by easing out the clutch I can make it sit there and crak as long as you want to hear it.
I can ease out and it clatters. I can spin the tire taking off and its fine. I can ease out on the clutch and as it starts to roll pull the clutch back in and then give a bit of throttle and dump it and it seems fine. But give it a bit of throttle and ease out on clutch for a smooth take off and it clatters.
So your friend thinks that is just how the CVO's are supposed to be?
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I haven't worked on Harleys hardly at all so I don't know much about them. This being a very nice very high dollar bike I am hesitant to just start ripping and modding or "riggin" things. Anxious to see what dealer says Saturday
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He paid $30K + and still had them add more to it like adjustable pushrods and stuff. That is exactly how it is, and it was brand new. It loads up at red light, so silly loud exhaust, when I am beside him I have not a clue what gear I am in and the only way it pulls out is like you want to drag race everything which he does. HA. I was out in front of Hardies, and he was showing another friend what it sounded like. He bounced it off the rev limiter in neutral. It actually scared me since I thought it was possible to maybe blow it up, but he says he does it all the time..made to do that.. Not me or the way I think. I am not sure if it came with that clutch in his, or he had them put it in when they did the other mods. I personally would not want it like that for a street bike unless you ran for pink slips and crazy stuff like that. When it made the rattle sound for me, it sounded like it was on the right since I think it was making the transmission drive dogs kick back and forth when it was sitting still with me trying to pull out easy.
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He paid $30K + and still had them add more to it like adjustable pushrods and stuff. That is exactly how it is, and it was brand new. It loads up at red light, so silly loud exhaust, when I am beside him I have not a clue what gear I am in and the only way it pulls out is like you want to drag race everything which he does. HA. I was out in front of Hardies, and he was showing another friend what it sounded like. He bounced it off the rev limiter in neutral. It actually scared me since I thought it was possible to maybe blow it up, but he says he does it all the time..made to do that.. Not me or the way I think. I am not sure if it came with that clutch in his, or he had them put it in when they did the other mods. I personally would not want it like that for a street bike unless you ran for pink slips and crazy stuff like that. When it made the rattle sound for me, it sounded like it was on the right since I think it was making the transmission drive dogs kick back and forth when it was sitting still with me trying to pull out easy.
Thanks for your input and I look forward to updating with good news Saturday.On another note, does anyone elses air shocks bleed off? I get mine set just about right for me and the wife and then one day we get on it, hit a bump and it breaks your neck. Have to put more air in. Then good for another couple months. Just curious if this is normal or I should hunt for a leak.
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Well, got the dreaded response from HD. Could have been worse I guess.
"This motor has a big gap between power from one cylinder and power from the next. You can't lug this motor. I rode it and its fine. You are apparently just lugging it too much."
So I guess you pin the throttle and slip the crap out of the clutch to take off and I have to go clear to first gear if I want to hurry out of a corner. The motor apparently can't handle low RPM and the governor shuts it down before high RPM.... so .... just not much operating range I guess. '
There are things I really like about my HD. The motor is NOT ONE OF THEM
"This motor has a big gap between power from one cylinder and power from the next. You can't lug this motor. I rode it and its fine. You are apparently just lugging it too much."
So I guess you pin the throttle and slip the crap out of the clutch to take off and I have to go clear to first gear if I want to hurry out of a corner. The motor apparently can't handle low RPM and the governor shuts it down before high RPM.... so .... just not much operating range I guess. '
There are things I really like about my HD. The motor is NOT ONE OF THEM
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Well, got the dreaded response from HD. Could have been worse I guess.
"This motor has a big gap between power from one cylinder and power from the next. You can't lug this motor. I rode it and its fine. You are apparently just lugging it too much."
So I guess you pin the throttle and slip the crap out of the clutch to take off and I have to go clear to first gear if I want to hurry out of a corner. The motor apparently can't handle low RPM and the governor shuts it down before high RPM.... so .... just not much operating range I guess. '
There are things I really like about my HD. The motor is NOT ONE OF THEM
"This motor has a big gap between power from one cylinder and power from the next. You can't lug this motor. I rode it and its fine. You are apparently just lugging it too much."
So I guess you pin the throttle and slip the crap out of the clutch to take off and I have to go clear to first gear if I want to hurry out of a corner. The motor apparently can't handle low RPM and the governor shuts it down before high RPM.... so .... just not much operating range I guess. '
There are things I really like about my HD. The motor is NOT ONE OF THEM