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The engine is never in neutral, the transmission is put in neutral.If the trans is locked up, the motor will not turn over. I had the same problem with a '68 Triumph. Problem was when it was stored, the exhaust valve was open and we had some really damp weather. The piston was at bottom dead center, and the cylinder was rusted from the rings to the top of the cylinder. Had to pull the head and jugs. Good news was a hone job and new rings and she was good to go.
I meant if the transmission was in neutral.
So if it's in neutral do I still need to remove the chain to try to turn the engine by hand?
it needs someone to look at it with you before you take it out and apart I am not convinced its seized YET
Can I ask why you don't think it's seized? Would like to know before I pull the engine.
I've tried to move it while in gear, every gear and the rear tire drags and doesn't move. I don't have the socket/tool that is suggested to be used to try to turn it by hand, once I do I will try using it to see if the engine turns that way. I have a socket that fits it and my neighbor who is a big bike guy tried to turn it with the socket I have and said the engine appears to be seized. He didn't take the chain off while doing this and it's just a normal socket/breaker bar he tried.
Seeing how the transmission shifts into and out of gear I don't think it's an issue with the transmission.
B- before I pulled the motor out, I would remove the primary chain so you can separate the transmission from the motor as far as culprits. Then go back to rocking the motorcycle in gear to see if the transmission is indeed spinning. If yes, now you are with the breaker bar trying to spin the motor. Then at least you know 100% which one it is.
Garage kept, even after seven years I wouldn't think it would be seized so bad that MMO in the cylinders wouldn't break it loose.
One thing is for sure, you have issues with either the trans. or the motor and you're gonna have to pull one or the other. In order to pull either, you need to remove your primary chain, so why not remove it and try cranking as John suggested. I guess I don't understand your reluctance to remove the chain.
if you don't have the tools to remove the chain, loosen the tensioner all the way. now you can see if the clutch turns when you try to push the bike or if the tranny is indeed locked up.
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